When insults start to fly perhaps it's time to take it off list.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Wilson [mailto:robert_wil...@tirsys.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:00 AM
> To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> Subject: RE: stun guns on aircraft
> 
> 
> 
> "Free men own guns". Yeah right. The true mark of a civilized 
> country is
> that its citizens all own guns. Never been anywhere else, have you? It
> is just this sort if immature 19th century frontier mentality that is
> embarrassing the US in the eyes of the rest of the world. 
> 
> Bob Wilson
> TIR Systems Ltd.
> Vancouver.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pettit, Ghery [mailto:ghery.pet...@intel.com] 
> Sent: May 6, 2002 4:24 PM
> To: 'Ted Rook'; <
> Subject: RE: stun guns on aircraft
> 
> 
> I've resisted jumping in in this fashion, but -
> 
> FREE MEN OWN GUNS!
> 
> Those who will trade essential freedoms for temporary security deserve
> neither - Benjamin Franklin.
> 
> Folks, the 2nd Amendment pre-dates the wild west by a long 
> time.  Those
> of
> us who value our RIGHTS are tired of the wimps in the world trying to
> take
> them away.
> 
> Ghery S. Pettit
> Life Member, National Rifle Association
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Rook [mailto:t...@crestaudio.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:08 PM
> To: <
> Subject: stun guns on aircraft
> 
> 
> 
> and other safety considerations
> 
> keep the hijackers off planes using ground security
> 
> an airplane in flight is not the place to have gun fights
> 
> too many lives are at risk
> 
> the first priority is to get the plane safely on the ground, anywhere
> 
> then at least the passengers have a chance
> 
> Most citizens of most countries enjoy the security that comes from
> having
> thrashed out land rights, territorial disputes, and the systems of law
> and
> law enforcement before firearms were invented.
> 
> America is one of the few places in the West that relies on 
> firearms as
> a
> negotiating tool.
> This is poor judgement. 
> Firearms are offensive weapons not negotiating tools. 
> Giving someone a gun escalates an already dangerous situation. 
> Now you want the pilot to not only assure the safety of the plane but
> also
> be an effective executioner. 
> Asking too much IMHO.
> Unfortunately America was taken by force and is defended by 
> force and is
> unlikely ever to change.
> 
> 
> 
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