Hi Ron

Yes I agree (well it also is supposed to verify that you follow your
documented QMS). But I am looking for empirical (or even anecdotal) data
sets that indicate whether ISO compliance has improved a company's
marketing, or has measurably affected the quality of its products (for
better or worse).

R/S,
Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: ron_well...@agilent.com [mailto:ron_well...@agilent.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 8:59 AM
To: boconn...@t-yuden.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: ISO 9k/2k relevance


Hello Brian,

ISO 9K accreditation only verifies that you have a quality system in place.
It doesn't matter if you make good product or bad product because ISO 9K
doesn't measure that, your Customers do. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:boconn...@t-yuden.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 7:36 AM
To: Product Safety Technical Committee
Subject: ISO 9k/2k relevance



Good People of the PSTC:

I've had some conversations with our Component Engineers, Sales and QA
people. I could not identify any customer that placed an order based on our
ISO 9k and/or 2k certification.  Nor could I identify any component
specified and/or purchased that was based on whether a supplier has ISO
certification.

Is the ISO "paper mill" relevant? Is there empirical evidence that ISO
certification results in "better stuff"?  Is ISO certification a requirement
for your purchasing policies? Has ISO certification been a determining or
contributing factor for selection of your company's products?

At this point, I am not being critical of the ISO "process"; I am attempting
to understand its ROI and relevance to product quality.

I speak only for myself; nothing said here represents my employer's
policies.

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