Hello all, I am a member of the Australian committee responsible for managing Australia's participation in IECEE, including managing how Australia participates in the CB Scheme and the IECex scheme etc.
I believe the reason the IECEE CB Bulletins are restricted is economic (as always). It is more pressure from the standards writing bodies in each country than an IECEE thing I believe. Of course the IECEE need to recoup some money for producing the CB Bulletin etc but also the various national standards writing bodies are not keen on a "differences list" between their standard and the IEC standard being available free of charge. If they were, not many people would end up buying the national standard now would they. So the answer is yes, it is very much a copyright issue and if any CB labs were discovered making their genuinely obtained CB Bulletins available to others then that would be considered a very serious matter by the IECEE and the continued CB accreditation of such a lab I believe would be in serious jeopardy. 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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Robert Johnson Sent: Wednesday, 17 December 2003 7:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: CTL Decisions (was: RE: MOV's to ground) Whether copyright violations are involved depends on the conditions of the copyright. Sometimes copyrights are used to guarantee free public access to a document, for example to guarantee attribution or assure completeness. In this case it depends on the conditions issued by IECEE. They may be providing these to labs doing certification for use with their client, allowing it to be distributed to those involved. On the other hand, they may be selling them at a price per copy. Maybe they are considered secret and can't be provided to anyone but the certifying lab. Can someone at a lab or IECEE provide information regarding the conditions of the copyright? Bob Johnson ITE Safety From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colgan Christopher [Soundcraft UK] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: CTL Decisions (was: RE: MOV's to ground) CB bulletins are available from the IEC http://www.iec.ch/ but you'll have to pay. I've had copies given to me by certain test labs but it was completely unofficial and probably broke copyright laws. This is a good time of year to meet up with your test lab engineers and bribe them with a couple of drinks :) Regards Chris Colgan From: Peter L. Tarver [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 16 December 2003 16:16 To: [email protected] Subject: CTL Decisions (was: RE: MOV's to ground) > From: John Woodgate > > Why are they not in the public domain? And as much to the point, is the listing complete? More than once I've been referred to a CTL Decision that wasn't on the CB Scheme web site that was provided to someone via their CBTL or NCB. Another item of great interest is the CB Bulletin. There may be items not for public consumption, but it's referred to often enough, even in CB Scheme test reports, that it not being public is unreasonable secrecy. I've asked three different CBTLs on more than one occasion for a copy and been turned down every time, on the basis of copyright protection. Yet, I've read it on this list that it was given for the asking. Maybe I need to disguise my request in a lovely pastry or a few pints. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE [email protected] This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. 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