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        I've never been stopped due to a lack of test reports - or the
technical construction file for that matter. Only when the manufacturing
site forgot to apply the CE mark et all and the DoC didn't get included in
the shipment. The tests, file, and all of the necessary approval steps HAD
already been completed - there was just a small paperwork screw-up in apply
the appropriate marks. In fact when stopped it only took a few days to get
the DoC to the authorities and off it went. (I still don't remember sending
the test reports etc - but its been awhile)
        Gary


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> I have had numerous occasions where a manufacturer is in "panic" mode
> and
needed their product tested for CE (yes, within a few days), because they
have done nothing about it and have been stopped by Europewan customs.

What was the legal ground to stop products due to lack of test results
(reports)? Just curious.

John Radomski




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Brian,

What is a CE Test Report?

It is one that the manufacturer has gathered, either in-house or externally,
to determine the product is CE compliant. Remember you can go to any
laboratory that meets your criteria of a test lab (my strong recommendation
is to ensure it is one that is accredited to  ISO 17025).

Also note that the CE documentation (EMC, safety, etc.) must be available
within 10 days after the manufacturer or importer is requested to do so by
the European authorities. I have had numerous occasions where a manufacturer
is in "panic" mode and needed their product tested for CE (yes, within a few
days), because they have done nothing about it and have been stopped by
Europewan customs.


Best Regards, Peter Merguerian










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 What is a "CE Test Report"  ?


 thanks,
 Brian


 -----Original Message-----
 From: peter merguerian [mailto:[email protected]]
 Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 12:28 AM
 To: Dan Anchondo; [email protected]
 Subject: Re: IEC and the CB Scheme


 Hello Dan,


 No, a CB Test Report is not required to make a European CE Declaration.
Typically for CE, the manufacturer gets his product tested in his own
accredited laboratory or at a third party laboratory and declares
compliance with all the applicable Directives.


 The CB Test Report is not only for power supplies. You can get a CB to
many categories including but not limited to: Household Appliances  IEC60335
, Lasers (IEC825), ITE (IEC60950), Laboratory Measurement and  Test
Equipment (IEC61010), etc. etc.


 A CB Test Report allows you to test the product at one NCB appointed by
the IEC in a particular country (say TUV Rheinland of North America) such
that the test results are accepted by another NCB in another country (such
as SII in Israel). Remember, Test Results only are usually accepted.
However, some NCBs such as TUV Rheinland of North America have excellent
rapports with various test agencies in the world, such that not only the
test results are accepted but also the construction.


 By the way, you can cover the power supply and product in the same CB Test
Report. Why pay the expense of doing two reports?


 A CB Test Report is not much more expensive than doing just a CE Test
Report. For IEC60950-1, there are 25 countries participating countries -
however, there are other countries who either are not an IEC member or  have
missed being in the Technical Bulletin, but who still accept CB Test
Reports.





 If you have any other questions regarding CE, CB, GS,
 cTUVus Listing/Recognition/Clasification, Wi-Fi, NEBS, Ergonomics,
ISO9000, Machinery, Household Appliances, Audio/Video Appliances,
Luminaires, Telecoms, Pressure Vessels, Medical, Telecoms, NOM (Mexico),
CCC (China), S Mark (Argentina), GOST (Russia) etc., let me know either
privately or via the emc-pstc list.





  Regards,


 Peter Merguerian


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