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John A.

I was not referring to the CE mark, DoC, technical file or certain tasks as
specified in the relevant Directives. My question was: what was the legal
ground to require TEST RESULTS / REPORTS to pass the customs.

John Radomski




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John R


The product must have the CE mark. Before you apply the mark you must HAVE
already performed certain tasks, as specified in the relevant directive(s)
[e..g LVD Annexc IV], notably including preparation of the technical files
with all the appropriate data (including, but certainly not limited to,
test reports) and then the DoC.


No Mark, DoC, or tech files = failure to comply with the directive(s).


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> I have had numerous occasions where a manufacturer is in "panic" mode and

needed their product tested for CE (yes, within a few days), because they
have done nothing about it and have been stopped by Europewan customs.


What was the legal ground to stop products due to lack of test results
(reports)? Just curious.


John Radomski







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Brian,


What is a CE Test Report?


It is one that the manufacturer has gathered, either in-house or
externally, to determine the product is CE compliant. Remember you can go
to any laboratory that meets your criteria of a test lab (my strong
recommendation is to ensure it is one that is accredited to  ISO 17025).


Also note that the CE documentation (EMC, safety, etc.) must be available
within 10 days after the manufacturer or importer is requested to do so by
the European authorities. I have had numerous occasions where a
manufacturer is in "panic" mode and needed their product tested for CE
(yes, within a few days), because they have done nothing about it and have
been stopped by Europewan customs.





Best Regards, Peter Merguerian













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 What is a "CE Test Report"  ?





 thanks,
 Brian





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 Hello Dan,





 No, a CB Test Report is not required to make a European CE Declaration.
 Typically for CE, the manufacturer gets his product tested in his own
 accredited laboratory or at a third party laboratory and declares
 compliance with all the applicable Directives.





 The CB Test Report is not only for power supplies. You can get a CB to
 many categories including but not limited to: Household Appliances
 IEC60335 , Lasers (IEC825), ITE (IEC60950), Laboratory Measurement and
 Test Equipment (IEC61010), etc. etc.





 A CB Test Report allows you to test the product at one NCB appointed by
 the IEC in a particular country (say TUV Rheinland of North America) such
 that the test results are accepted by another NCB in another country (such

 as SII in Israel). Remember, Test Results only are usually accepted.
 However, some NCBs such as TUV Rheinland of North America have excellent
 rapports with various test agencies in the world, such that not only the
 test results are accepted but also the construction.





 By the way, you can cover the power supply and product in the same CB Test

 Report. Why pay the expense of doing two reports?





 A CB Test Report is not much more expensive than doing just a CE Test
 Report. For IEC60950-1, there are 25 countries participating countries -
 however, there are other countries who either are not an IEC member or
 have missed being in the Technical Bulletin, but who still accept CB Test
 Reports.








 If you have any other questions regarding CE, CB, GS,
 cTUVus Listing/Recognition/Clasification, Wi-Fi, NEBS, Ergonomics,
 ISO9000, Machinery, Household Appliances, Audio/Video Appliances,
 Luminaires, Telecoms, Pressure Vessels, Medical, Telecoms, NOM (Mexico),
 CCC (China), S Mark (Argentina), GOST (Russia) etc., let me know either
 privately or via the emc-pstc list.








  Regards,





 Peter Merguerian





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