On 3/26/2009, Peter Tarver wrote:
What if the power supply is Class 2 Equipment? Then the isolation requirements are somewhat larger than 1500 V. Also, doesn't the supplied power to the PD have to continue to be isolated from earth, as do the ethernet circuits? Hi Pete: A Class 2 supply is the most common type of supply that I have seen for POE injection. And yes, the output should be isolated from earth ground to comply with IEEE 802.3af. Personally, I do not see any safety compliance problems with this construction when used as intended (inside lines). By the way, one problem that I *have* seen with this construction is performance related. Most of these POE injection power supplies are switching converters, and the Y-caps used on the input for EMI suppression create a voltage divider that places a very high 50/60 Hz common mode noise signal (typically one half of the AC mains voltage) on the Ethernet outputs. This means that an IP telephone powered by the POE injector will be riding on the 50/60 Hz common mode noise. The analog audio circuits in the IP phone, such as the microphone for a hands-free mode, can be sensitive to this common mode noise and produce audible hum. Grounding the chassis of the POE injector fixes the problem, but most of these devices are ungrounded. So, the IP telephone has to be designed with an extraordinary level of 50/60 Hz common mode immunity in order to avoid hum in the analog audio path. Joe Randolph Telecom Design Consultant Randolph Telecom, Inc. 781-721-2848 (USA) j...@randolph-telecom.com http://www.randolph-telecom.com <http://www.randolph-telecom.com/> - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. can be posted to that URL. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@ptcnh.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com>