So you are happy to have zip guns, modified air weapons firing live rounds and the like on the street too - seems like this device would be equally good for mugging someone.
As for the other - the rules are there to protect the majority, hopefully preventing fires, explosions and electrocutions in domestic situations - like you I personally find it an encroachment but unlike many I understand the need for competency when undertaking such work and knowing ones limitations. I have been in houses where mains cable has been nailed along the skirting board and round door frames to feed wall additional sockets in rooms, or in one case a power shower - that owner was actually proud of such handi-work. C From: Derek Walton [mailto:lfresea...@aol.com] Sent: 05 February 2009 15:00 To: James, Chris Cc: Taylor, Michael; Oscar Overton; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: New Product Proposal hi All, I guess I'm used to being Politically incorrect, it's what life's experiences teaches me to be.. So..... I'm all in favor of devices like these. I DO NOT believe in baning things unless absolutely avoidable. I don't think that the majority should be punished for the stupidity of the few. My birth country was England, where it's absolutely incredible how such a country has been clamped down. You cant install your own gas, or by now electrical appliances by yourself without running legal risks. Actions like restricting experimenting tools totally kill the pioneering spirit! If it IS against the law to sell such devices, it won't be the first time that I've thought the law is an A$$. Not my intent to offend, but it sometimes it seems like we repeat things often enough and begin to believe it. You can start fires with magnifying glasses too: going to ban them? As engineers an pioneers we should be advocating not condemning experimentation like this. Cheers, Derek Walton James, Chris wrote: > ....... and how many more people will start trying this out as it > spreads on the www ..... misuse of laser pointers were bad enough....... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Taylor, > Michael > Sent: 04 February 2009 19:36 > To: Oscar Overton; emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: RE: New Product Proposal > > Doesn't this dumb smuck realize he is liable under CFR 21: (sub J), > 1040 for selling a class 3B laser that could toast some one's eye ??? > I'm sure CDRH would love to see the Craigslist and the video. > // Michael Taylor > Loveland, CO > > -----Original Message----- > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Oscar > Overton > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:15 PM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: New Product Proposal > > How scary is this? > > http://lexington.craigslist.org/ele/1018576822.html > > - > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society > emc-pstc discussion list. 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