I feel this topic is getting outside of the intended purpose of the list-server
Lee From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Derek Walton Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:33 AM To: James, Chris Cc: Taylor, Michael; Oscar Overton; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: New Product Proposal Hi Chris, We all know banning doesn't work, history has shown that: and the Darwin awards showcase gene pool removal..... I feel safer in Texas, or Arizona, where I know if someone tries a stunt with a weapon that 1/2 the resteraunt will stop him/her before a carnage will occur. I no longer feel safe like that in Manchester or Warrington where I grew up. I've lived in these places, so thats my experience. Not trying to advocate guns etc, just stress banning doesn't work. That just means the bad guys/gals have the things being banned. So to answer your question, yes, I tolerate some idiots. Better one or two crazys being dealt with than the rest of us becoming vanilla... Go after the crazies. Cheers, Derek. James, Chris wrote: > So you are happy to have zip guns, modified air weapons firing live > rounds and the like on the street too - seems like this device would be > equally good for mugging someone. > > As for the other - the rules are there to protect the majority, > hopefully preventing fires, explosions and electrocutions in domestic > situations - like you I personally find it an encroachment but unlike > many I understand the need for competency when undertaking such work and > knowing ones limitations. > > I have been in houses where mains cable has been nailed along the > skirting board and round door frames to feed wall additional sockets in > rooms, or in one case a power shower - that owner was actually proud of > such handi-work. > > C > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Derek Walton [mailto:lfresea...@aol.com] > Sent: 05 February 2009 15:00 > To: James, Chris > Cc: Taylor, Michael; Oscar Overton; emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: Re: New Product Proposal > > hi All, > > I guess I'm used to being Politically incorrect, it's what life's > experiences teaches me to be.. So..... > > I'm all in favor of devices like these. I DO NOT believe in baning > things unless absolutely avoidable. I don't think that the majority > should be punished for the stupidity of the few. > > My birth country was England, where it's absolutely incredible how such > a country has been clamped down. You cant install your own gas, or by > now electrical appliances by yourself without running legal risks. > Actions like restricting experimenting tools totally kill the pioneering > > spirit! > > If it IS against the law to sell such devices, it won't be the first > time that I've thought the law is an A$$. > > Not my intent to offend, but it sometimes it seems like we repeat things > > often enough and begin to believe it. You can start fires with > magnifying glasses too: going to ban them? As engineers an pioneers we > should be advocating not condemning experimentation like this. > > Cheers, > > Derek Walton > > > James, Chris wrote: > >> ....... and how many more people will start trying this out as it >> spreads on the www ..... misuse of laser pointers were bad >> > enough....... > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of >> > Taylor, > >> Michael >> Sent: 04 February 2009 19:36 >> To: Oscar Overton; emc-p...@ieee.org >> Subject: RE: New Product Proposal >> >> Doesn't this dumb smuck realize he is liable under CFR 21: (sub J), >> 1040 for selling a class 3B laser that could toast some one's eye ??? >> I'm sure CDRH would love to see the Craigslist and the video. >> // Michael Taylor >> Loveland, CO >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Oscar >> Overton >> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:15 PM >> To: emc-p...@ieee.org >> Subject: New Product Proposal >> >> How scary is this? >> >> http://lexington.craigslist.org/ele/1018576822.html >> >> - >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society >> emc-pstc discussion list. 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