Nick,
I completely agree with your first point. One of the 'counterfit' discussions that has gone around is related to a 'Chinese Export' mark where the font was the same but the spacing between the 'C' and the 'E' was diminished. There was even a YouTube cast posted from an EU Parliamentarian alerting the world to the issue. However, there is much commentary suggesting it was all a myth born of a joke (ref http://www.cemarking.net/chinese-export/). Regarding your second point, I would love to see the details of what the UK enforcement authorities got wrong. Can you share the details or point to an article, etc... (this may read as defensive, but I am truly interested) Regards, Lauren Crane From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 5:28 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS Question I don't have any clearer answer than those already been given by Lauren Crane and William Brown, but a couple of points occur which may be grist to the mill. Firstly, I suspect that the original intention of including wording in the Directive to restrict the use of other marks has, at least in part, grown from the New Legislative Framework requirement intended to protect the CE mark, and so the intention was not to outlaw other marks per-se, but was to outlaw other marks which might be confused with (and taken to mean the same as) a legitimate CE mark. Secondly, and somewhat less conjecturally, the UK enforcement authority turned out to be spectacularly wrong in their interpretation of at least one aspect of the old Directive (the large scale industrial tools exemption) and so I'd be inclined to take anything else they say with a pinch of salt as well. Nick. On 6 Sep 2012, at 20:10, Brown, William wrote: Nick Williams Director Direct line: +44 1298 873811 Mobile: +44 7702 995135 email: nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk ----- Conformance Ltd - Product safety, approvals and CE-marking consultants The Old Methodist Chapel, Great Hucklow, Buxton, SK17 8RG England Tel. +44 1298 873800, Fax. +44 1298 873801, www.conformance.co.uk Registered in England, Company No. 3478646 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>