Thanks all who responded. I have a better idea in mind of how to proceed. "There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns - the ones we don't know we don't know.
Heavy sigh Gary -----Original Message----- From: Pete Perkins [mailto:peperkin...@cs.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 6:02 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] so what does a DoC look like for a subassembly that isn't usable on its own? PSNetters, This whole issue of how to treat incomplete products has existed from the beginning. In many cases it was quite clear that the components didn't require a CE marking/DoC but component manufacturers started using it anyway to clearly indicate that their component was compliant. So, the situation was backed into in a sense. I have lamented the situation before. It is unfortunate the EU didn't take a page from the UR program and declare requirements for components in a unique way. It would have been quite straightforward to expand the use of the Declaration of Incorporation (DoI) from the Machinery Directive for general use in this sense. It would have covered the importation/control aspects as well as provided clarity in applying the component in the end product. Politicians/Regulators never seem to quite understand the needs of business in implementing their requirements. I do like the comments regarding adding the Conditions of Acceptability and Installation/Electrical Code Information; it makes the document more self standing. Perhaps this will start a groundswell of common sense application of needed information on the documentation, a needed improvement as stated in this thread. :>) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety Engineer PO Box 23427 Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201 fone/fax p.perk...@ieee.org - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <emcp...@radiusnorth.net> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>
