John
Military drones analogy? - I don't think so! In those cases you have dedicated (at least) two-man teams flying 1 drone each on a specific operation. In the real-life civil aviation industry, you have thousands of simultaneous flights "from here to there " controlled by hundreds of ground controllers in different countries /time zones /cultures /languages, where no single third-party team is in constant communication with any single aircraft for the whole of its flight ("handovers", sometimes many times, happen on any flight) - and you think they could conceivably operate consistent and reliable systems whereby a pilot says "I need a cr*p, please open the cockpit door in 30s", and "someone", "somewhere", has to say " OK", and do that? And then do it again when the pilot, who is NOT now in the cockpit wants to get back into the cockpit? Works no better than the system on the Germanwings flight because the co-pilot (in that case) is the one who IS in communication with the "someone", "somewhere", and he/she is the "weak link" in your argument because he simply needs not to pass on the pilot's request! Maybe it would be possible in a few years' time when all aircraft are flown remotely, but then there will be no need for aircrew flying the planes anyway - and then the emphasis will be on the ground controllers AND their computer systems. "Terminator, Judgement Day" here we come! L -----Original Message----- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 01 April 2015 21:30 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Germanwings crash In message <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAEGjmYsMtGZAuvo7rFLQ++figAAAEAAAAFC36QsFDqtAlNsc1 <mailto:kQ8nscBAAAAAA==@blueyonder.co.uk> kQ8nscBAAAAAA==@blueyonder.co.uk>, dated Wed, 1 Apr 2015, John Allen < <mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk> john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk> writes: >Not realistic for a huge raft of reasons: air-to-ground-to-air >time-delays, comms issues, EMI issues, language issues, situational >awareness issues - need I go on? !! L Those factors may be taken into account. Since is possible to fly and control military drones in complex manoeuvres in combat conditions, it seems that reliably opening a door by remote control might not be quite impossible. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk When I turn my back on the sun, it's to look for a rainbow John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to < <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: <http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html> http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at <http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/> http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: <http://www.ieee-pses.org/> http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: <http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html> http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas < <mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell < <mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: < <mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: < <mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> dhe...@gmail.com> - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org> Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org> For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <j.bac...@ieee.org> David Heald: <dhe...@gmail.com>