The definition is clearly out-of-date; it doesn't even cover an autonomous lawn-mower. The police device wasn't a robot, let alone an autonomous one. They could have used an unmanned police vehicle or a shopping trolley. There are no ethical issues beyond the general one of the justification of lethal force. Autonomous robots with lethal weapons are a very different kettle of ethical fish. Since we can't even train cops (in US and even Britain) not to use lethal force when it's totally unjustified, It will probably be a very long time before robot AI is trustworthy enough to go armed. With best wishes DESIGN IT IN! OOO – Own Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 9:53 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Friday Question All I haven't done one of these Friday questions in a few years so I thought I would toss one out... With the many recent updates to safety standards that the incorporate provisions for safety risk assessment, I find the topic of misuse and intentional misuse often comes up in RA team meetings. My question is if there are any valid elements within this news article that could be included in those meetings when working with autonomous or semi-autonomous robotics? http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/what-dallass-shooting-means-for-the-ethics-of-robotics/ ISO 8373 defines robot as "An automatically controlled, reprogrammable, multipurpose manipulator programmable in three or more axes, which may be either fixed in place or mobile for use in industrial automation applications." Now I realize the context of the news article is not industrial and possibly this definition needs updating. I have had opportunity to do certification work with unmanned aerial robots (not drones) to UL 1740 and RIA R15_06-1999, both of which UL has had some involvement. Any thoughts? -- Douglas E Powell doug...@gmail.com <mailto:doug...@gmail.com> http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to <emc-p...@ieee.org <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> > All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) <http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html> List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas <sdoug...@ieee.org <mailto:sdoug...@ieee.org> > Mike Cantwell <mcantw...@ieee.org <mailto:mcantw...@ieee.org> > For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher <j.bac...@ieee.org <mailto:j.bac...@ieee.org> > David Heald <dhe...@gmail.com <mailto:dhe...@gmail.com> >
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