Ted,
I sent the the RoHS FAQ and they agree the cables need to be RoHS. They
resist CE Marking because the cables have UL approvals for use inside
walls (read flammability). They claim there are "matching" safety
requirements in the EU and these were not tested for. So they cannot
apply the CE Mark. I contend that those "matching" EU safety
requirements are not CE Marking requirements so do not apply.
Is anyone aware of any CE Marking requirements for cables used inside
walls? Possibly under Construction Products or General Safety?
Thanks again for all comments.
Scott
On 1/4/2018 6:55 PM, Ted Eckert wrote:
Hello Scott,
There are U.S. and Canadian national differences to many safety
standards that mandates flame resistance for cables such as this.
Cables under 3.05 meter in length must be VW-1 or FT-1 or better in
flame rating. (Longer cables are subject to stricter requirements.)
This is why you can find UL approvals on cables, but not necessarily
other international safety certifications for HDMI, USB and other data
cables. The LVD would not apply to an HDMI cable sold on its own as it
is below the lower voltage limit of the scope.
Generally, if the cable is bundled with a product, the cable does not
need the CE marking. If the cable is sold on its own, the CE mark is
required for RoHS. See pages 15 and 16 in the European Commission
guidance document.
http://ec.europa.eu/environment/waste/rohs_eee/pdf/faq.pdf
Ted Eckert
Microsoft Corporation
The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those
of my employer.
*From:*Scott Douglas [mailto:sdouglas...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, January 4, 2018 6:42 PM
*To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
*Subject:* Re: [PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables
My opinion is only the RoHS Directive should apply. But my last email
from the ODM tonight says the cables have UL Approvals too, on the
cable, on the connector and then flammability on the assembly. So they
think that there must be some safety directive that applies (and was
not tested for). They are checking with their factory (again).
On 1/4/2018 6:27 PM, Brent DeWitt wrote:
Hi Scott,
Which Directives do you think should apply?
*From:* Scott Douglas [mailto:sdouglas...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, January 04, 2018 7:00 PM
*To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
*Subject:* [PSES] CE Marking HDMI Cables
I am going around with an ODM making a HDMI cable for us. Standard
cable just has our brand logo molded in the connector shell. Cable
is to be used with Category 4 (ITE) Equipment and is sold separately.
The question is CE Marked or not CE Marked. I say it must be CE
Marked and they say not required. I have been through the
directives and FAQ more than a few times and it seems black and
white to me.
They say they talked to three different compliance labs, at least
one of which is familiar to a lot of us on the west coast, and all
say not required. They say their compliance engineers all went to
the required training and they all say not required.
Am I the only one that thinks these HDMI cables need to be CE
Marked? Or am I missing something? Like maybe not required today
but required to be marked at some future date like 2019 maybe?
Last, assuming I am not on some good psychedelics and CE Marking
is required on or for HDMI cables, can I get away with putting the
CE Mark on the single unit package, like a label on the poly bag
it is sealed in?
I thank everybody that helps answer the question and keeps me from
consuming more of those pink pills.
Happy New Year to all.
Scott
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