Hi James, Is UL listing mandatory for IT accessories like keyboards? No any NRTL certification will be sufficient, but that may not be the question or answer ! Depending where you are selling the equipment, they may expect a certain certification mark, Ive gotten many approvals for the USA market but its the customer who needs to understand the requirements.
I had explained to my customer that they can have any suitable certification mark and it will meet the requirements, TUV, CSA, UL etc However once they were selling the device, there customer would ask "Wheres the UL mark" there customer was not technical and didn't understand or care to understand there were alternatives, just "Wheres the UL mark" Ive also found this with the building inspectors who should know better ! So for that job, nothing but UL would do. In answer to "some retailers use it as a minimum requirement for stocking your products" Yes thats correct and you dont have much chance in convincing them to do anything else. I've been discussing this with the alternative approval bodies for a while, that they need to improve the general public view of them so more people understand that UL are only one of a number of options. Ive worked with many approval bodies, some better than others, some not, but as a general rule, avoid the customer service agents and deal straight with the engineer at the testing lab and the person whos dealing with the approval. I have to mention my current experience with UL is very good, but then ive found myself a number of responsive people who reply to your Emails and are happy to discuss the project with you. 10 years ago, it was a lot different ! Regards Darren. On Monday, 18 June 2018, 9:40, James Pawson (U3C) <ja...@unit3compliance.co.uk> wrote: <!--#yiv9337533103 _filtered #yiv9337533103 {font-family:Wingdings;panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;} _filtered #yiv9337533103 {font-family:"Cambria Math";panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv9337533103 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv9337533103 #yiv9337533103 p.yiv9337533103MsoNormal, #yiv9337533103 li.yiv9337533103MsoNormal, #yiv9337533103 div.yiv9337533103MsoNormal {margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv9337533103 a:link, #yiv9337533103 span.yiv9337533103MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9337533103 a:visited, #yiv9337533103 span.yiv9337533103MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9337533103 p.yiv9337533103MsoListParagraph, #yiv9337533103 li.yiv9337533103MsoListParagraph, #yiv9337533103 div.yiv9337533103MsoListParagraph {margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;}#yiv9337533103 span.yiv9337533103EmailStyle17 {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv9337533103 .yiv9337533103MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;} _filtered #yiv9337533103 {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}#yiv9337533103 div.yiv9337533103WordSection1 {}#yiv9337533103 _filtered #yiv9337533103 {} _filtered #yiv9337533103 {font-family:Symbol;} _filtered #yiv9337533103 {font-family:"Courier New";} _filtered #yiv9337533103 {font-family:Wingdings;} _filtered #yiv9337533103 {font-family:Symbol;} _filtered #yiv9337533103 {font-family:"Courier New";} _filtered #yiv9337533103 {font-family:Wingdings;} _filtered #yiv9337533103 {font-family:Symbol;} _filtered #yiv9337533103 {font-family:"Courier New";} _filtered #yiv9337533103 {font-family:Wingdings;}#yiv9337533103 ol {margin-bottom:0cm;}#yiv9337533103 ul {margin-bottom:0cm;}-->Hi folks, Working with a client at the moment on a computer keyboard (hence the earlier question). I’m trying to get a handle on the applicability of UL listing and could do with some help. Is UL listing mandatory for IT accessories like keyboards? My searching so far suggests that the answer is “no”. However, I’ve read that some retailers use it as a minimum requirement for stocking your products – does anyone have any experience or knowledge of this? Assuming that UL listing was required (for whatever reason, OHSA?) presumably an analysis against IEC 62368-1 would be sufficient or are there other tests/requirements? If anyone has a link to any docs with more information I’d like to do some more reading up. Thanks in advanceJames - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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