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Regardless of whether or not a CEE 7 plug is (and, apart from that particular version of the CEE 7 plug, almost, if not all of them, are), or is not, reversible in a CEE 7 socket, the polarity of the socket contact tubes is indeterminable for the reasons I outlined earlier. Therefore, as far as a supplier of pluggable equipment is concerned, he cannot rely on socket + plug polarity being determinable and stable, and thus the Live/Neutral conductors entering the equipment can, and often are, “reversed” arbitrarily – that is one of the reasons why double-pole switching, & sometimes fusing, of such equipment is deemed necessary for safety reasons. John E Allen W. London, UK. From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] Sent: 22 February 2019 18:28 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Type F receptacle wiring The plug is not reversible in France and Belgium. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2019-02-22 18:13, John Allen wrote: Doug As I am sure that many others will confirm, that CEE 7 socket does NOT have any defined polarity for the Live/Line and Neutral contact tubes, and thus the Line/Live and Neutral wires to those contact tubes can & are connected either way around according to the “wim” of the installer – unlike N.America and the UK (for example) which do have defined polarities for some sockets . PS: researched this in detail about 20 yrs ago and I am quite sure that the situation has not changed since (as it had not changed in the decades before that). John E Allen W. London, UK From: Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com] Sent: 22 February 2019 17:48 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Type F receptacle wiring All, I am searching for wiring information for the TYPE E CEE7/5, 250 Volt, 16 Amp receptacle for France and Belgium. The earth pin is obvious and for some reason, I am unable to find information on the correct pins for Line and Neutral. The receptacle has no makings to this effect. One resource even says the left/right orientation is interchangeable since neutral is considered as live. The best I can find indicates neutral is on the left when viewing the reception from the front. True? Thanks! -- Doug Douglas E Powell doug...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. 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