Thanks all, Very helpful and reassures me that I am not doing anything to get myself into hot water.
Have a great weekend, Doug Douglas E Powell doug...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 ------------------------- Some have said I am an "expert" in my field. ex-pert etymology /ekˌspərt/ from: ex- (“*has been*”) + spurt (“*drip under pressure*”) Ngram (link <https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=15&smoothing=7&case_insensitive=on&content=expert&direct_url=t4%3B%2Cexpert%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bexpert%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BExpert%3B%2Cc0> ) On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 2:41 PM Ted Eckert < 000007cf6ebeab9d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> wrote: > This is my understanding. If you are looking at the face of the plug, with > the line and neutral pins pointing at you, and the hole for ground up, > neutral should be on the left. As such, on the receptacle, with ground at > the top, neutral should be on the right when looking at the front. > > > > That being said, I would expect it to be highly likely that the > receptacles are not wired consistently. > > > > Ted Eckert > > Microsoft Corporation > > > > The opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of > my employer, LCIE or anybody who has actually wired a French outlet. > > > > *From:* John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk> > *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2019 10:28 AM > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* Re: [PSES] Type F receptacle wiring > > > > The plug is not reversible in France and Belgium. > > Best wishes > > John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only > > J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk > <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.woodjohn.uk&data=02%7C01%7Cted.eckert%40microsoft.com%7C2cb6a8aac91d445fada408d698f376b9%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636864568775180819&sdata=jQd4EPi00Gmlgflm6t6luApDsIDIcM4NKNK0D4nicb8%3D&reserved=0> > > Rayleigh, Essex UK > > On 2019-02-22 18:13, John Allen wrote: > > Doug > > > > As I am sure that many others will confirm, that CEE 7 socket does NOT > have any defined polarity for the Live/Line and Neutral contact tubes, and > thus the Line/Live and Neutral wires to those contact tubes can & are > connected either way around according to the “wim” of the installer – > unlike N.America and the UK (for example) which do have defined polarities > for some sockets . > > > > PS: researched this in detail about 20 yrs ago and I am quite sure that > the situation has not changed since (as it had not changed in the decades > before that). > > > > John E Allen > > W. London, UK > > > > *From:* Doug Powell [mailto:doug...@gmail.com <doug...@gmail.com>] > *Sent:* 22 February 2019 17:48 > *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* [PSES] Type F receptacle wiring > > > > All, > > > > I am searching for wiring information for the TYPE E CEE7/5, 250 Volt, 16 > Amp receptacle for France and Belgium. The earth pin is obvious and for > some reason, I am unable to find information on the correct pins for Line > and Neutral. The receptacle has no makings to this effect. One resource > even says the left/right orientation is interchangeable since neutral is > considered as live. The best I can find indicates neutral is on the left > when viewing the reception from the front. 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