Hi John, Sure - I can see that for equipment approved to 508A. But this equipment is designed and built to NFPA 79 and EN 60204-1. In this particular case I’m only involved in assisting the client in CE Marking the machines, so that’s the focus.
Doug Nix “All code is guilty until proven innocent” - Software Testing Fundamentals https://softwaretestingfundamentals.com > On Aug 4, 2023, at 10:20, John Cochran <[email protected]> wrote: > > UL requires us to apply a 'UPS Voltage Present When Off' label for UL 508A > mobile carts we build with a UPS installed. Inspector considers it a safety > violation if the label is not on the access panel or door. > > John > > John Cochran > Compliance Manager > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <https://strongarm.com/> > Industrial workstations and mountings for the frontline workforce. > > Strongarm Designs, Inc. > 425 Caredean Drive | Horsham, PA 19044 > (800) 778-7901 <tel: 8007787901> • strongarm.com <https://strongarm.com/> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ralph McDiarmid <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2023 13:26 > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PSES] Hazard warning labels on panel doors where COTS UPS > installed? > > CAUTION: This message originated from outside Strongarm. Do not open > attachments or click on links if you do not recognize the sender. > > > Doug, a quick search through NFPA70 (USA national electrical code) says in > article 645 Information Technology Equipment: > > 645.16 Marking. Each unit of an information technology system supplied by a > branch circuit shall be provided with a manufacturer's nameplate, which > shall also include the input power requirements for voltage, frequency, and > maximum rated load in amperes. > > I endorse John Woodgate's answer; if in doubt, label it. > > I'm delighted to see a few familiar names after my long hiatus from this > forum. I'm now semi-retired from the industry. > > Ralph > > From: Doug Nix <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 2:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PSES] Hazard warning labels on panel doors where COTS UPS installed? > > Colleagues, > > I have a client who has installed a COTS UPS in an industrial control panel. > The UPS is being used to keep the HMI alive in a power outage or if the > disconnecting device is switched off. > > I have scoured the resources that I have, and I can find nothing that > requires a label on the outside of the panel to indicate that there is a UPS > inside. EN 60204-1:2018 does not address this. I have a copy of EN IEC > 62040-1, and it does not require a hazard warning label anywhere. > > Any guidance you might offer is appreciated. > > Doug Nix > mailto:[email protected] > +1 (519) 729-5704 > > ________________________________________ > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc > discussion list. 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