Certification activities in the USA are handled by TCBs. Most test labs either 
have a separate TCB group, or work with a specific TCB for approvals. You 
should work with a lab to determine what tests need to be repeated, and take 
the data. Based on the new data the lab can determine if it is a Class 1 or 
Class 2. For a Class 2 the TCB will do a filing with the FCC. For a Class 1 you 
just need to keep the data on hand internally to prove the change was 
investigated.



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Yes, we increased the Y-Caps to get more margin.  And we did!
So, to qualify for a Class 1 permissive change, we'd need to show before & 
after data ?

Applying for a Class 2 permissive change, means FCC will look only at the 
latest data to be sure it passes?

Colorado Brian

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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 00:02:42 +0100

What are you changing about the Y-caps? If it's just a new supplier and the 
caps conform to the required component standard, there is no degradation. 
Reducing he capacitance would be a degradation for EMC but not for safety.

Who determines the class is the person who has all the necessary data. The test 
house of surveillance authority check the decision.
On 2023-08-09 23:20, Brian Gregory wrote:

 Hello EMC experts,

A question came up today about filing new results to FCC for our legacy product.

1.  If the filing is only for FCC, then the lab providing the report does not 
need A2LA accreditation,
2.  If the filing is for a safety report, then the lab does need A2LA 
accreditation.

Have I got that right?

We're filing some small board changes, including Y-caps and can't figure out if 
this is a Class 2 permissible change, defined as:  " includes those 
modifications which degrade the performance characteristics as reported to the 
Commission"

3.  How or who determines if our change is Class 2 (degraded performance) or 
Class 1?
We think the results are better, but it's not like we got uniformly more margin 
across the board.

Thanks!

Colorado Brian
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