On Monday 08 December 2008, Kenneth Lerman wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>===========<snipped>========
>
>> But I'm about frozen out, I can't work wood in that variable an
>> environment, its not insulated well enough to heat effectively. Warpage
>> is the keyword, I can't keep ahead of it. Nor can I apply finishes at
>> 40F, the best I could do yesterday when I said to heck with it. Get over
>> this *&%^$# cold, and start insulating it I guess. Bring money I would
>> use for toys. 2" styro is now almost $30 a sheet around here. The 2"
>> Blue stuff seems to have disappeared, and I recall it was rated about
>> double the R that the styro stuff is. 1 sheet does one 2x6 worth of wall
>> when cut in half and stacked 4" thick, and there is 56 feet of walls=28
>> sheets, with some leftovers to start on the 16x24 ceiling. I figure about
>> 40 sheets to do it right. $1600. Add another kilo for installed heat. It
>> will wait for warmer weather thats for sure. :( =======<more
>> snipped>=====
>
>Gene,
>
>I seem to recall that fiberglass is less expensive than foam and
>provides better insulation. Throw some drywall (also pretty cheap) over
>it and it's protected. Of course, the drywall weighs a ton, but you're
>young and strong. :-)
>
>Ken
What funny paper have you been reading? At 74, I'm finding a 40 pound bag of
salt dumper in the softener tank is beginning to be work. 8 of them trucked
downstairs 2 at a time & dumped into it definitely makes it break and
beer-thirty time.
I picked up some drywall tonight, a dozen sheets of 1/2x4x8, and it was all a
young, stout black boy and I could do to get a bundle of 2 sheets moved 4
feet from the stack outside Lowes door, into my pickup. And by the time 6
such 2 sheet bundles had been so moved, my GMC was definitely a bit nose up.
Dee figured she would help me unload it, but by the time I'd cut the strip
and moved one sheet about 3 feet to the rear, we decided to throw a tarp over
it for the night. As for the insulation on top of it, I figure cocoon blown
in 4 or 5 inches deeper than the rafters is still half the price of glass,
and R40 or so. At a weight of about 8 oz per square foot, which the drywall,
if fastened at all edges every 8" or so with a 1.625 drywall screw, should
hold forever. Or till after I'm gone anyway. :)
The ceiling is first, since heat rises, But I'll have to add more plates to
screw the drywall up to over part of it and at the insides of the soffit.
Most of it is on 24" centers except the last two on the uphill end, which are
about 25". It was either that, or put the last rafter up very short spaced.
Throw in that the first one away from the house is about 6" away from the
house because the house has that much gable overhang, and I've got a
piece-work nightmare. I'm tempted to put it up from the there out, and piece
the edges accordingly. I'll use up another small bundle of studs fitting all
the screw it up to frames I'll need to hit the sheets edges I expect. I did
install a 'shark knife' riving knife on my teeny little table saw, so it rips
nice and clean and safely now.
I probably ought to stick a piece of that corrugated green sheet foam to hold
open a vent from the soffit to above the ceiling, but forgot that & didn't
get any. Damn, cuz it will need to go up while I can still access it from
the inside. Thinking out loud, interesting ain't it, listening to an old
fart beat on himself cuz he has CRS. :)
I did look at the styro, but its white, and half (2"=R7.9) the Rvalue of the
blue stuff, and still $28 a sheet for 2". No thanks.
By the time I get this done, I will not have to worry about the wind moving it
off that retaining wall unless its a real kansas style tornado, and we
haven't have one of them in WV in 20 some years. The drywall will raise its
weight at least 30%. 50% by the time I get drywall on the walls, which I
will then blow full of cocoon too, it should be able to stand a 50 mph wind
with the garage door open, more than that closed.
I also picked a a Saelic? 'PC' game controller like those in the pix from Big
J. but haven't had a chance to play with it yet. $21 at CC.
So many projects, so little time.. :(
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
There are only two things in this world that I am sure of, death and
taxes, and we just might do something about death one of these days.
-- shades
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