You might take a look here for stepper motors. 

http://web4.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Motion_Control/Stepper_Systems/
Motors_-z-_Cables

I see they have some new ones and they are very cost effective.

John

On 19 May 2009 at 11:00, Michael Jones wrote:

> Interesting, these motors are HUGE for floppy drives and such?
> 
> I'm looking into replacing the motors with something MUCH more  
> efficient however, until the budget allows, I'm kinda stuck with
> these  
> for now.  In the meantime, I'd like to at least make the current  
> system work as efficiently as possible.  The question is how do I 
> figure out the correct timing for the system as is?
> 
> I've been looking at some of the NEMA23 motors from:
> http://www.kelinginc.net/index.html 
>   at around 300 oz-in.  I figure they will be MUCH better than the
> 83  
> oz-in with the high resistance/voltage and such.
> 
> The current stepper drivers are L297/98 based and I'll probably be 
> keeping these as Geko's are kind out of my budget right now.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - Michael
> 
> 
> 
> On May 19, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
> 
> > Michael Jones wrote:
> >> My mill seems to be working OK, with decent speeds and feeds -
> though
> >> I'm getting intermittent missed steps on the fast rapids.  I'm
> still
> >> kind of fixated on making these motors do their best - maybe I'm
> just
> >> tilting at windmills, who knows.
> >>
> >> I just located some specs on what I believe to be the motor and
> >> control setup on my mill.   It appears to be a Vexta PH266
> series
> >> motor with Thompson L6203 driver chips.
> >>
> >> I don't know exactly what I am looking at here and if or how
> these
> >> values combine into what EMC needs to optimize step length and 
> >> timing.
> >>
> >>
> >> Current: 0.6A/phase
> >> Voltage: 12 V
> >> Resistance: 20 ohm/phase
> >>
> > Ugh!  You are sunk!  These are very high resistance and
> inductance
> > motors.  They were designed for use in floppy drives and such, and
> the
> > current limiting resistor is the motor winding itself.  They
> will
> > perform quite poorly, and can only do a couple hundred RPM at
> best.
> > Motors designed to give good performance will have resistances of
> 1-2
> > Ohms, and voltage at rated current of just a couple volts.  These 
> > motors
> > work VASTLY better even with mediocre drivers like the L6203, and
> can
> > deliver usable torque at over 1000 RPM with a good driver like a 
> > Gecko.
> >
> > Step timing has to be right for the driver to function correctly,
> but
> > you are not going to improve perfomance by tweaking the step
> timing.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
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