>
> You're kidding me right???
>
> I called them today to figure out what cards do what and which is
> supported by EMC. We are looking for more than one... cough cough...
> That call was a pretty bad experience and after reading the above
> they're off the short list. No further information required. If they
> want safety, they should accept PayPal.
> Cheers
> Rainer
Are you kidding us ???

Paypal is a company - not a bank - and if you have any problems with 
them; bad for you.
Banks and credit card companies are safe (ehm at least as safe as you 
can get nowadays) and if there is any problem with a money transfer over 
credit card there is a good procedure to get your money back. I know ... 
I ordered for a few 1,000 Euro worth of computer equipment from a 
company and the parcel got lost in royal mail. Even after a number of 
phone conversations, postal investigation, a lot of waiting time and 
lack of response from the vendor I called my credit card company and 
they provided me with a form to fill out. Had my money back in no time - 
still waiting on a response from the vendor though. Vendor is a big 
computer company in the Netherlands and I found them to be very bad when 
money or warranty is involved.

I once tried to get a paypal account in NL but I have to sign them an 
authorization form to charge my bank for all my financial transactions 
with them.
Are they kidding ??? I will never give any firm an open offer to 
withdraw money from my account - especially not if there only way of 
security is a username/password combo on an open website.
If you want security pay using credit card - paypal is for those who 
can/will not accept the professionalism of dealing with real banks 
(sorry but that's how I think of them)

I found Mesa Electronics a professional company, dealing with customers 
in a professional way and handling my credit card information as I would 
accept. All they want is a proper written statement with number, 
security code and your signature. Mesa replied promptly and 
professional; I sent them a fax followed by an email that I faxed them - 
had a reply within a few minutes that my order was ok. I also ordered 
'more than one... cough cough...' and would do so again if I am building 
another three machines.

BTW: Delivery was as good as their way of accepting my order. Delivery 
via FedEx international parcel arrived within 48 hours after placing my 
order - I was not even ready yet to upgrade my computer at that time :-)

Another plus on Mesa: they upgraded my 7i43 200k gates to a 400k gates 
for free - just because they did not have a 200k ROHS version on stock - 
on my first order. I did not ask them to, neither was I in a hurry

Rob

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