2010/3/30 Slavko Kocjancic <esla...@gmail.com>

> Sven Wesley pravi:
> > I have a strange behaviour on a machine. I have a breakout board (Rutex
> > components), when the EMC2-computer starts the mill motor will start
> right
> > away. When I start EMC2, it stops. The odd thing is, when I exit EMC2 the
> > motor will stay off.
> > I have tested both active high and low, could it be a "leaking" output
> pin?
> > I guess it might be fixed with a grounded drop signal resistor. What do
> you
> > think?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sven
> >
> That's pretty normal. (sadly). When you start computer the BIOS check
> port and that's set's some random data at the port. The spindle cannot
> be (safe) controled by lpt port. It's needs another layer of safety.
>
> The easyest and safe is chargepump. So to run the spindle the PC must
> output stream of pulses long enought to energyze relay. In hal is
> chargepump component so it's easy to use it. The hardware to do that is
> in most cases just two diodes and two capacitors added into circuit.
>
> I use two of such relay's (with chargepump)
>
> One is for turning on the driver power supply
> Other is for turning on router.
>
> The Estop switch (NC) is wired to power relays.
>
> So to turn on the standar procedure is Relase Estop (before or later
> turning on EMC computer / doesn matter)
> Hit F2 to turnon chargepump for relay1 and realy turnon power for motors
> relay 2 is under M3 M5 control.
>
> so if computer hangup the power for spindle and motors are cutoff same
> if the estop is pushed.
>
> Don't use direct signal from port to turn on board/spindle.
> Just imagine that you have manual toolchange and just changing tool and
> there is power glitches just long enought to reset pc. (and turn on the
> spindle with your hands on it.)
> aniway the cnc controller should shut off in that condition but I didn't
> see that in smal benchtop machines. Not good news for our fingers.
>
> Slavko.
>
>
I'm not sure I'm following you, it sounds like your solution is a relay that
controls a relay, and then the problem remains?..
It sounds like an odd deal that a common breakout board shouldn't handle
glitching on/off.

Sven
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