>>Hmm, I think you're not seeing the bigger picture. He's not doing this to recover his costs. He doesn't care about the money.
If he doesn't care about the money, he is destined to fail. Unless he has Bill Gates covering his backside with $, the likelihood of this one guy opening a shop in Washington State and changing the industrial base of America is very unlikely. For his sake and his employees sake, I hope he has his feet a little more firmly planted on the ground. I'm familiar with the general scope of manufacturing base in the midwest as I used to sell industrial automation controls across most of it. Aerospace machining and EDM specialized services is a lot different than the traditional machine shop work being done in the typical midwest machine shop. The typical midwest machine shop serves local customers, mostly manufacturers, and the problem for them is that their customer base is simply going away. The manufacturers have either gone out of business due to foreign competition or else they have shrunk to the point where they have so much excess capacity that they simply don't need many outside services any longer. It only takes a drive through any of the industrial parks outside of any midwest city to see that the manufacturers are simply gone. In Livonia, on the outskirts of Detroit where I grew up, there is a stretch of industrial parks where literally every other building is vacant and for sale or lease. In many cases it is not that manufacturers moved their operations overseas, it is the case that the company that used to make "Widgets for Ford in Livonia etc" no longer exists, and the company now supplying the same widget is located in China. No amount of enticement is going to move those companies from China to the US. The Chinese gov won't allow it. They play by different rules. So the problem is bigger than just enticing the manufacturers to now buy services from the US instead of overseas. >>On the other hand, I don't work there anymore (and I use EMC) :-). Yikes ...Do your friends from MS still talk to you?? Is your name really Doug.. ;-) Dave On 9/28/2010 2:22 PM, doug metzler wrote: > Hmm, I think you're not seeing the bigger picture. He's not doing this to > recover his costs. He doesn't care about the money. He's doing this to try > to bring about the revival of the hard manufacturing base in the US. His > goal is not to build parts, his goal is to entice major manufacturers back > to the US by offering high-quality, highly skilled local machinists in local > shops. If this goes he may make a major contribution to the reversal of the > outsourcing trend (which actually is showing a few signs of reversal > already). > > I worked for MS for 15 years. I'm not completely sure it's productive to > dismiss completely the man's approach because of his current employer. > There are a lot of good smart people at MS who are trying to make a > difference outside those walls. > > On the other hand, I don't work there anymore (and I use EMC) :-). > > DougM > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Viesturs Lācis > <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> 2010/9/28 Igor Chudov<[email protected]>: >> >>> I agree with Jon, the guy is so optimistic that it is ridiculous. >>> Especially since he has not even started retrofitting the controls. >>> >> 2010/9/28 dave<[email protected]>: >> >>> Well, he seems to have $$ to burn but doing a reality check with Stuart >>> might be helpful. Apparently he has sunk 5 to 10 E 6 into it. Wonder >>> what he is smoking?? ;-) >>> >> The guy is from microsoft. That explains everything to me - both >> unrealistic approach and the serious cash amounts that are attracted >> to this venture. And that is also a reason, why I will not wonder, if >> the investment will never be recovered. >> >> Przemek suggested that somebody should introduce that guy to EMC. I >> have a personal belief that he will not give up on using Windows, so >> the casino box - Mach3 - is his most likely choice :)) >> >> Well, I think that there is one thing that he has done properly - PR. >> Obviously, experience from his previous work, how to get high PR on a >> low product. >> >> /vie >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances >> and start using them to simplify application deployment and >> accelerate your shift to cloud computing. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances > and start using them to simplify application deployment and > accelerate your shift to cloud computing. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
