On 03/16/2011 2:00 PM, Peter Blodow wrote:
> Jon Elson schrieb:
>    
>
>> When using a 2-phase to 3-phase converter, the motor's center point is
>> NOT at ground potential.
>>
>>      
> This is highly dangerous. Never let a motor float electrically! It's
> wire insulation could be stressed with any voltage to ground, e.g., if
> the high potential DC circuit insulation fails!
>    
Well, there are many thousands of users running shops, even fairly large 
commercial shops
with rotary phase converters in this manner.  Assuming most of these 
motors are 240/480
Volt motors and are being run from 240 V single-phase mains, their 
insulation is not being
overstressed.  Also, running a motor this way is IDENTICAL in voltage to 
running from
a center-grounded open-delta system.  This has one traditional 
center-tapped 240 V transformer
as is used in residential service, with one additional 240 V transformer 
to provide the 3rd phase
wire.  There are thousands of commercial shops using this service 
provided by the utilities.
This allows you to run 120 V appliances from the same service as the 
3-phase loads, which
is a major convenience in the US.  The alternative is either 120/208 
3-phase, or separate
single and 3-phase feeds, or providing your own transformer for office 
loads.

Jon
>> This is also true when using several of the unbalanced 3-phase supply
>> systems available in the US, such as corner-grounded and center-grounded 
>> open delta supplies.
>>
>>      
> Center grounded sounds not so bad. Corner grounded  is less economical,
> but acceptable from a supplier's point of view. For measuring it's less
> favourable...
>
> I remember two rules from my electricity course at Muskegon, Mich. High
> School: Ground everything you can get a hold of and always leave one
> hand in your pocket!
>
> Peter Blodow
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