I am not an attorney so this is not legal advice.

regarding patents -
It is my understanding you can produce, reproduce any patented item for your
own use and not be in violation of the patent restrictions. You cannot
distribute in any fashion.

regarding copywrite -
I do not know.

thoughts, comments, rants and rages welcome :)
Stuart

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Erik Christiansen
<[email protected]>wrote:

> On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 08:29:00PM -0500, R. van Twisk wrote:
> >
> > Mark, I partially agree with you,
> > what if I (as a person) invent something great, but I don't have the
> resources
> > to back it up. Then I am going to be a poor puppy.
>
> If you have evidence of making the thing before, then you can continue
> to make and sell it. Dated laboratory notebooks have served that purpose
> in the past. If you've been selling it, or otherwise gone public, then
> your "prior art" can totally invalidate the patent. (For those of us who
> can't afford patenting costs, or think the invention isn't worthy of
> patenting, then cutting off parasites, by putting it in the public
> domain, may be our only comfort.)
>
> Google has just been in the courts over a "garbage collection in linked
> lists" patent. To me that sounds a bit like patenting pi. Algorithms and
> data manipulations are just "where you drive your cpu" in program-land.
> I do not have any way of seeing barbed-wire fences when driving there,
> other than look-and-feel, i.e. copyrightable product appearance and
> identity. But then, for our own use there are none.
>
> Since FOSS isn't sold, its private use cannot readily be stopped by
> patents. Can't we just ignore them?
>
> > I kinda like the system in Europe, there are no software patents there,
> > and thee is no such thing 'Let me make a patent of swiping a finger
> across
> > a display to do whatever action'.
>
> We had that here in Australia, until a "Free Trade Agreement" with USA set
> numerous restrictions on our trade freedom. (Currently proposed
> extensions include allowing US companies to sue our government if future
> policy formulations impact in any way on corporate profitability.)
>
> Patents are currently used to restrict competition, not advance human
> knowledge.
>
> Erik
>
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>
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