On 7/26/2011 2:45 PM, gene heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2011 02:14:33 PM yann jautard did opine:
>
>    
>> Chris Radek wrote:
>>      
>>> Yes, it was found and fixed as a result of the testing that happened
>>> before 2.4.0.
>>>        
>> ok, in fact I wondered if this had been discovered, because it could be
>> very dangerous with a milling machine.
>>
>> in my case, it's just boring, but not dangerous.
>>
>>      
>>>> I know I should upgrade EMC, but... it works well now.
>>>>          
>>> No it doesn't.
>>>        
>> well, obviously not, but it's only when I try to do unusual things, such
>> as changing the whole program. But this is very unusual.
>>   So I can deal with it.
>>
>> In fact, I very well know I should upgrade, but I'm really afraid of the
>> time it will need to have it running again. For now, I'm here at 7:30AM,
>> and I go home at midnight, making a solar panel each 7 minutes... So if
>> I can just upgrade EMC without re-installing the whole distro, I may
>> try. But reinstalling the whole thing is not possible now. When this
>> 6-months-late work is over, I'll look into it.
>>      
> Would it be possible to locate a suitable computer, and have a helper do
> the more recent install by downloading and burning the 10.04 LTS image from
> linuxcnc.org?  The idea of saving your data dirs is still a good one, and
> once the new install appears to be running (update emc to the latest as
> soon as it boots ands seems stable, there are some new toys in 2.4.6-
> git#####), set it beside the old machine, move the keyboard, mouse, monitor
> and parport cables to the newer machine, zero the z with plenty of
> clearance and try your program.  It it doesn't work, then in 10 minutes
> worth of moving cables back you are back in production on the old box.  And
> maybe have learned enough that the config can be fixed (post the errors
> here and someone can probably advise) and a new try made tomorrow.
>
> If you don't have a helper and you are doing assembly tasks in between
> machine reloads&  restarts, then I have this image of a one armed paper
> hanger in your shop.  ;-)
>
> But that is hard on you, I have done it, 40 hours straight a few times when
> TSHTF and the tv station was off the air with a burned up final socket or
> similar, which in an old GE transmitter is several hundred screws, many of
> which can only be gotten to with one of the left angle screwdrivers you can
> turn the screw 1/4 turn at a time if lucky.  I call then left angle because
> there really isn't any 'right' angle to use those (fill in the blank)
> things.
>
> Can you estimate this job runs completion date?
>
> The newer emc runs enough smoother (for me at least) that you can possibly
> tweek feed rates and accels and save quite a few seconds per unit, which
> might make taking it down to do the upgrade, time that could possibly be
> made up.  On my machine, I found that reduced accels allowed max_vels to be
> raised to almost double.  Running xylotex drivers now, at about 27.5 volts,
> but what I really need are to jack up the motor voltage to 70 volts and buy
> some gecko's.  That way I could break more tooling because the spindle is
> puny powered, only about 200 watts.  ;-)
>
> Cheers, gene
>    

I support a couple of companies that run EMC2 on commercial machines and 
they run 2+ shifts per day.
If I were you I would pull that hard drive and clone it to an image ASAP 
and then setup another computer.   Do it on the weekend if you have to 
after you catch up on some sleep.   If you think you are working hard 
now just wait until
that hard drive takes a dump at 10pm.

I don't know if you have a Sata or IDE drive in that PC.    But if you 
get a Drive to USB adapter (About $20 from Newegg and others), you can 
pop that drive out, make an image onto another computer for safe keeping 
and replace the drive in about 30 minutes.
Then use the image to burn another copy of the drive and setup another 
PC.    R-Drive running under Windows works fine for backing up and 
cloning Linux drives.    (Yes, I am aware that I am a confused 
Windows/Linux user..  ;-) )    Acronis does not work for EXT linux 
partitions, at least not with the version I have.

I'd be one nervous guy if I didn't have drive images of all of my 
customers PCs.   Every hard drive will fail.  It is just a matter of when.

The later EMC2 software is well worth the upgrade effort.   There have 
been hundreds of tweaks and fixes that make it much more robust.

Dave

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