On 12/24/2011 12:22 PM, gene heskett wrote:
> On Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:14:41 PM yann jautard did opine:
>
>    
>> Le 24/12/2011 15:04, gene heskett a écrit :
>>      
>>> On Saturday, December 24, 2011 09:00:31 AM Mark Wendt (Contractor) did
>>>
>>> opine:
>>>        
>>>> On 12/23/2011 2:47 PM, gene heskett wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>> I sounded like a good idea, but:
>>>>> [gene@coyote ~]$ ssh shop
>>>>> gene@shop's password:
>>>>> Linux shop 2.6.32-122-rtai #rtai SMP Tue Jul 27 12:44:07 CDT 2010
>>>>> i686 GNU/Linux
>>>>> Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome to Ubuntu!
>>>>>
>>>>>     * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> 11 packages can be updated.
>>>>> 6 updates are security updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last login: Thu Dec 22 09:38:52 2011 from coyote.coyote.den
>>>>> gene@shop:~$ sudo useradd -u 500 gene
>>>>> [sudo] password for gene:
>>>>> useradd: user 'gene' already exists
>>>>>
>>>>> So there isn't an obvious way to make the user numbers match between
>>>>> the *buntu's and the rest of the world.
>>>>>
>>>>> The last time I tried that, I wound up re-installing to fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, Gene
>>>>>            
>>>> Gene,
>>>>
>>>> What about good old vi, or gedit on the /etc/passwd and /etc/group
>>>> files, changing the uid and gid to what ever you need, then doing a
>>>> chown -R gene:gene on /home/gene
>>>>
>>>> No need to reinstall.  Just a little careful editing is all you need.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>          
>>> I did something like that, including the chown -R back on 8.04 and had
>>> to reinstall.  Among other things, sudo quit working so I couldn't
>>> fix the rest of the perms problems that created.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Gene
>>>        
>> yeah sudo quit working due to permission problems during the operation.
>>
>> This is why you need to create a root password first, and login as root
>> to make the user modification.
>>
>> sudo password root
>>
>> then you log off the graphical interface
>>
>> switch to terminal (ctrl-F1)
>>
>> login as root
>>
>> make the modifications
>>
>>
>> go back to the graphical login (ctrl-F7 or F8) then login as your normal
>> user, and that's all.
>>      
>
> That is, IIRC, what I did to an older 6.06 LTS install.  Things worked
> passably well, but somehow the root passwords presence messed up sudo, it
> wouldn't take either pw, so that I had to constantly su - to do things that
> scripts use su for.  So I tried to remove the root pw, then that blew
> everything up and I had to re-install.
>
> AFAIAC, the buntu's do that to be a PITA, thinking it might add to the many
> layers of security.  Perhaps it does, to an ex winders user, but I am used
> to machinery that only I have access to, and which do exactly as I tell
> them too, even if its wrong. :)
>
> Cheers, Gene
>    
Gene,

That sounds like syntax problems in the passwd, group or shadow file.  
The root account's password has nothing to do with the operation of 
sudo.  sudo uses either a set uid, or set gid process to gain the 
elevated privileges to do it's work.  It doesn't access the root account 
at all.

Realize there's a difference between a simple "su" and  "su -".  An "su" 
will bring you up to superuser, however it uses the rc scripts in the 
account you are "su'ing" from to set the environment.  An "su -" brings 
you up to superuser, but it does so using the rc scripts in the "root" 
account to set the environment.  Unless you have a reason to use the 
regular user account's rc scripts, I'd recommend to always use "su -" 
when you are doing real superuser work.

Mark


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