the overcapacity problem is a problem of going to unnecessary lengths to 
accomplish a defined task, a problem of applying the most extreme measures in 
straigtforward cases.

if you had a pocket calculator, would you trade it in for a smart phone that 
included a pocket calculator app, streaming web video, and a fish pond widget 
for your cat to play with?  the long term cost increase would only be a factor 
of ten thousand or more, and who isnt getting all kinds of additional income 
these days?

the disposal liabilty pcs of a decade vintage have plenty of capacity to 
function as machine controllers, so why not repurpose them to that task rather 
than a dumpsite?  if you had one computer that could do everything except more 
or less dedicate its resources to being a machine controller, and for free, 
have another computer perform that function, would you toss that second comp 
and somehow reconfigure the first comp for an extended capability?

another angle:  one of the advantages of an os like win98 or dos is that they 
are not ever going to require updates, or run into backwards compatibilty 
problems.  fixed forms, like a basic bipolar junction transistors, may be not 
suitable devices for every application, but they are useful, well defined, and 
behave in predictable and consistant ways.  tools that have such traits are 
desireable.  continuous retooling is a drag.

--- On Wed, 3/7/12, Dave <e...@dc9.tzo.com> wrote:

> From: Dave <e...@dc9.tzo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC2/Ubuntu updates - safe to install?
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 8:58 AM
> I'm not understanding the
> "overcapacity problem"??   If your car can go
> 
> 80 mph, do you trade it in and get a crappier one that can
> only go 70?
> 
> There is a reason why old Windows 95/98 PCs are dirt cheap.
> 
> I threw out a bunch of Windows 98 PCs.  I got an entire
> pallet of them 
> from one of my clients.  I salvaged a few parts off of
> some of them, but 
> 90% of the pallet went into the trash.
> 
> >>turbo cnc?
> 
> 
> Your question would be better answered on the DIY-CNC forum
> on Yahoo.   
> There are a lot of users of other PC based CNC controllers
> on there but 
> most of them are LinuxCNC and Mach3.
> 
> Hardware is so cheap these days that I think that buying
> stuff over 2-3 
> years old is of questionable value.
> 
> The people on this list are somewhat jaded when it comes to
> preferable 
> PC based CNC controls.  ;-)
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> On 3/7/2012 10:33 AM, charles green wrote:
> > hmm.  has anyone else tried turbo cnc?
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 3/7/12, Mark Wendt<mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil> 
> wrote:
> >
> >    
> >> From: Mark Wendt<mark.we...@nrl.navy.mil>
> >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] EMC2/Ubuntu updates - safe
> to install?
> >> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 7:17 AM
> >> On 03/07/2012 10:11 AM, charles green
> >> wrote:
> >>      
> >>> turbo cnc?  interesting. ..nice - $60 to
> register
> >>>        
> >> the shareware.  but that is significantly less
> than the
> >> cost and tortuous hours of overcapacity
> investment.  i
> >> do have a win 98 cd and a 486 box in the closet,
> but then
> >> i've already put in the ubuntu hours.  maybe i
> should
> >> keep my eye out for a parport switch box.  did
> you use
> >> turbo cnc?  how, strictly in its function as a
> machine
> >> control, does it compare to linuxcnc?
> >>      
> >>>
> >>>        
> >> Dunno.  I'm not the one concerned with over
> >> capacity.  I just use the
> >> system the way I want to.  I'd rather not be
> limited by
> >> someone else's
> >> idea of what a computer should be or do.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
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