On Thu, 24 May 2012 10:05:32 -0500
John Thornton <bjt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've built several rotary phase converters using plans from the web
> but they all seem to stop at adding a few caps to balance the voltage
> and the auto start circuit with the potential relay.
> 
> Have you ever peeked into your commercial unit to see what else is
> there?
> 
> John
I've been tempted but never found a roundtoit.
Someday it is going to fail and I'll have to. :-(

Dave
> 
> On 5/24/2012 8:41 AM, dave wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 May 2012 06:00:23 -0500
> > John Thornton<bjt...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >
> >> Just to update the results of last nights test run of the cobbled
> >> up generator setup. While we had a devil of a time trying to make
> >> the diesel motor that we coupled up to the generator stay at 1800
> >> rpm it stayed close enough for me to rapid my Z axis up and down
> >> at 295 IPM with the spindle turning 2k for about 5 minutes with no
> >> complaints from the Simodrive 611 despite the voltage varying
> >> wildly as motor powering the generator surged up and down.
> >>
> >> So now I have two options as I see it and option B is preferred due
> >> to the noise of running a diesel generator.
> >>
> >> 1) buy a 3 phase generator to run the shop.
> >>
> >> B) figure out how to make my phase converter put out a proper 3
> >> phase.
> >>
> >> If anyone has any ideas on option B I'm all ears. I have a small
> >> line reactor (rated at 3hp) that I can put on the phase converter
> >> output and see what that does. I see claims of true 3 phase power
> >> from rotary phase converters when searching for rotary phase
> >> converter and cnc so there must be a way cause these claims don't
> >> seem to be coming from small time shysters.
> >>
> > <massive snip>
> >
> > I built a 5 hp phase converter and it was OK but not perfect. Plans
> > came off the net. One leg was maybe 20 v out. Been a long time and I
> > really don't recall. When I got the Mazak I wanted something better
> > so I sprung for a commercial unit. Ray Henry recommended an outfit
> > in Birmingham ( AL that is ).
> > I got a 30 hp unit. It is really close in voltage, a couple of volts
> > between phases. Inrush current on starting is massive but it has
> > never blown the motor starting fuses (125 A). Unfortunately the
> > outfit either went broke in the recession or they retired.
> >
> > Even a diesel gen set is an expensive way to get power unless you
> > are simply off the grid. As you said, they are noisy and also
> > require maintenance.
> >
> > If I had to do it again I think I'd give the home-built another
> > shot. There ought to be a way to auto-tune the phase under load. :-)
> > HTH
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Dave
> >
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