On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Viesturs Lācis <viesturs.la...@gmail.com>wrote:

> 2012/5/28 Bryce Johnson <sie...@gmail.com>:
> > I've just been trying to tune my gantry setup and I have had a few
> > problems.  I am using 2.5.
> >
> > I am using gantrykins with XYZX.  I am trying to set up my limits for for
> > speed on my Z axis of 180ipm.   In joint mode, jogging around, it seems
> to
> > obey this.   When I switch to world it doesn't listen to that limit
> anymore
> > and I can (try to)  jog it up to my MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 6.00 in my
> >  [TRAJ] in my ini.  This will throw a joint error.
> >
>
> I guess "joint following error" is meant here.
>
> >
> > It seems like I lose some flexibility when using gantrykins vs just
> slaving
> > the drives together (although I would like to be able to home both X1 and
> > X2 independently).  Is there a way to home the drives and then run it as
> if
> > they were slaved?
> >
>
> If I understand correctly, then You are having difficulties with Z
> axis, but gantrykins simply maps 2 joints to X axis, so I do not see,
> how changing kinematics module (and hardwire slaving the 2nd joint)
> will help here.
>
>
If I remember correctly on my previous machine (3axis 3 motors), even if
the jog speed was high, it would get limited by the axis speed in the ini.
 This was nice so I could jog my x and y at high speed and then my z was
limited.  If on my new machine (XYZX) if I set it up the same way (hardwire
slaving) then the machine would respect those limits instead of throwing a
joint error.

Also If I had it this way, the soft limits would be in place... which is
nice for jogging around.


My suggestion (could be considered as workaround) is:
> in [TRAJ] section
> 1) set default_linear_velocity to something that Your Z axis can handle
> 2) set max_linear_velocity to something that Your X and Y can handle
>
> when You need to jog Z, simply jog it at default speed. When You want
> to jog X or Y at max speed, press "shift" and arrows - it will jog at
> max velocity.
>
> I am not sure, how that all really works, but explicitly telling
> LinuxCNC to jog a joint faster than it is capable to do so is
> something it will complain about. I guess that simply limiting that
> speed to joint's max velocity would be better, but I assume there may
> be a reason for not to be set up this way, I really do not know.
>
> >
> >
> > And then some other problems are my somewhat poor base period (this is
> the
> > reason my Z can't go about about 180ipm on a screw drive).  I have a
> > 3 GHz pentium 4.  Tried the SMI fix, an external video card,and disabling
> > all the power saving stuff in the bios and can't seem to get it below
> > ~45000 jitter worst case.  I've thought about getting one of those little
> > atom boards to improve the stepping, or should I get one of those mesa
> > cards I keep seeing you guys use (like 5i25?  at $90 that would be as
> cheap
> > as a atom board).  Could I plug that directly into my C10 breakout board
> > from keling (http://www.kelinginc.com/c10.pdf)?
> >
>
> 45000 is really unpleasant. Is that single-core or dual-core cpu? I am
> typing this on dual-core Pentium - I do not know, when did Intel
> manage to put those out, I  thought they were calling all dual-core
> cpus to be " core2duo" or something like that until I got this PC.
>
>
Single Core.  I should have held on to my older cnc pc that got better
numbers (around 25000 or 30000).


> FPGA cards available for LinuxCNC will connect directly to PC either
> via LPT port (Pico Systems cards and Mesa's 7i43) or in pci slot
> (Mesa's 5i23, 5i25 etc). FPGA cards will not plug in any breakout
> board of whatsoever.
> If You want to use Your existing Keling breakout board, I would
> suggest 5i25. Take the pinout of that board and check with Mesa
> people, if it matches with any of existing firmwares (there should be
> a match, but AFAIK they will adjust one for You, if there isn't). So
> in the end You should be able to plug the lpt cable from Your breakout
> board in 5i25 and just tweak Your config a little bit.
>
> Cost-wise it would be the same as atom board, but performance-wise use
> of FPGA card beats any software-stepping setup in many points,
> including smoother step signals, increased number of i/o pins, better
> realtime performance etc.
>
> --
> Viesturs
>
> If you can't fix it, you don't own it.
> http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto
>
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