On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 20:37 -0500, Jon Elson wrote:
> Greg Bentzinger wrote:
> >
> > My problem is this - with site 3phase power you can throw a motor running 
> > forward into reverse and it just does it. I'm sure the control has a ever 
> > so slight delay between relay actions to allow for mechanical times to 
> > prevent switching "shoot through" but I have no idea what this delay is. I 
> > don't think I can just switch direction on the VFD without first going 
> > through a breaking action. For any other action the machine would just open 
> > the relay, let the motor coast down for 6 seconds then apply a spindle air 
> > break to lock the spindle. E-stop drops the relay and applies the break 
> > instantly.
> >
> > I am using a Teco FM50-203-C and I also have the optional breaking 
> > resister. I would prefer to let the motor coast and just reverse it for 
> > tapping but I don't know if a VFD can take that kind of repeated abuse - 
> > lots of tapping.
> >
> > So - do I need to hook up the breaking resistor and have it set to break 
> > the motor in under a second?  How would the VFD be setup under LCNC to do 
> > tapping? - I watched Ander's rigid tapping videos and it looks like it is 
> > reversing at full programmed speed.
> >
> >   
> Yes, you need a braking resistor or the VFD will fault when the spindle 
> is at high speed
> and you ask it to stop.  But, it still won't stop and reverse like plug 
> reversing a 480 V
> motor.  It will probably take almost a second to reach zero speed.  If 
> the CNC control
> expects it to act like a plug reverse, you may have a big problem, 
> depending on how
> much slack there is in the tap holder.  (Of course, if it is really 
> smart with the tach,
> it may actually do a fine job regardless of how fast the spindle 
> actually reverses.)
> 
> I do absolutely rigid tapping on my LinuxCNC Bridgeport with an encoder on
> the spindle, and I actually had to have LinuxCNC slow down the reversal 
> a bit
> to get the most accurate following of the Z axis.
> 
> Once you've tried real rigid tapping, you'll be hooked.  I figured out 
> how to adapt
> a spindle encoder even to a machine that made a traditional approach pretty
> much impossible.  See http://pico-systems.com/bridge_spindle.html
> for some pics and description.
> 
> Jon

Jon, 
That is a really cool approach and I have the sensors but my project
list is very long and due for some offset soon. 



Dave



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