there seems to be quite a few people using linuxcnc for rep-raps.. Like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_Q0mGSz4ag

maybe contact some of these users and see what gotchas there are...

sam


On 01/11/2013 08:25 PM, Ed Nisley wrote:
> TL;DR summary: advice needed on a LinuxCNC-based 3D printer project.
>
> The background...
>
> About a year ago, high-end DIY 3D printers outstripped the capabilities
> of Arduino-based controllers: the gymnastics required to stuff
> acceleration control into 8 bit microcontrollers appears to be a dead
> end. There's a notion of re-re-writing the Arduino firmware in 32 bit
> style for [ARM | Beagle | RPi | whatever] running on another generation
> of custom microcontroller boards.
>
> Rather than waiting for more of the same, I want to explore what
> LinuxCNC can enable for an advanced (albeit Cartesian) DIY 3D printer,
> starting with a solid motion-control foundation plus all the other
> features LinuxCNC provides, the ones that would require serious firmware
> development for Arduino-based code.
>
> For example...
>
> Hard real time motion control, rather than interrupt-based motor
> handlers that go awry when userland code inadvertently disables
> interrupts to bit-bang an I2C peripheral.
>
> Userland scripting, extensible language features, a G-Code dialect with
> loops / branching / subroutines, stuff like that.
>
> Probing the build platform to correct for for height variation and
> misalignment: probekins.
>
> I think a HAL-based extruder model that could include second- and
> third-order effects should provide better control than a simple
> linear/angular axis, particularly for a printer with multiple extruders.
> The plasma torch controller modules seem like good starting points.
>
> Similarly, ladder logic offers interesting possibilities for an extruder
> "tool changer".
>
> LinuxCNC offers a *much* better UI, with devices that aren't teleported
> from 1990. I want to get a Touchy interface running early, just to show
> it off, plus the usual gamepad jogging and suchlike.
>
> Network-aware capabilities right out of the box, a real operating
> system, and enough compute power & storage to make everything work.
>
> Plus all the topics I can barely pronounce when you folks discuss using
> them on your industrial machinery.
>
> The hardware plan...
>
> I'll start with a stock Makergear M2, which seems to be the most solid
> and well-designed DIY printer currently available. I'd prefer an
> enclosure to stabilize the ambient temperature, but that's basically a
> big box.
>
> Once the stock M2 works well enough, replace its RAMBo controller with
> Mesa 5i25 + 7i76.
>
> The 7i76 has enough robust digital outputs to drive SSRs for heaters and
> whatnot, with HAL components closing the temperature loops. The thermal
> time constants seem long enough to not require high-frequency PWM
> proportional control, which should simplify things.
>
> It also has sufficient digital inputs for home switches, probe contacts,
> and stuff like that.
>
> However, the printer controller also needs multi-channel thermocouple
> inputs, because thermistors seem underqualified for long-term
> measurements at 200+ C. I'd like to use a Mesa 7i87 for analog input,
> but it appears unsupported by the HostMot2 driver:
> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Mesa_Cards
>
> An alternative might be some Arduino love with this shield, although
> four channels seems limiting:
> http://www.mlgp-llc.com/arduino/public/arduino-pcb.html
>
> The Mesa 7i32 stepper driver board doesn't connect to the 5i25 at all. I
> don't know whether a Gecko G540 4 channel board (which is one axis shy
> of what I want) would make more sense than a quintet of M542H boards hot
> from the usual eBay vendor, but, for sure, blowing a single-channel
> board would be much less painful than taking out the Gecko.
>
> Although I have some of those tiny Pololu drivers, I think they're
> underqualified for this job. I'd love to be proven wrong.
>
> The goal is to produce a 3D printer with a contemporary control system
> that's easily extensible and isn't constrained by the quirks of DIY 3D
> history. Eventually, I want to tinker with better printer mechanics, in
> particular extruders, but the M2 should suffice for much of the
> proof-of-concept work.
>
> I have the attention of a guy who knows his way around the innards of
> the latest accelerated-motion-control Arduino firmware. I'll get my M2
> running to show it's possible, then poke around at system improvements,
> after which he can build a similar setup and begin doing wonderful things.
>
> What I need...
>
> Guidance around my blind spots!
>
> F'r instance, I'm sure I've missed a hardware gotcha. Are there more
> practical ways to drive five stepper axes, get a bunch of digital I/O,
> and read thermocouples?
>
> Although I'm generally a big fan of lashing up surplus parts in my shop,
> I want to do this with reasonably standard hardware, so as to simplify
> building the next one. It's coming out of my pocket, however: the sky is
> *not* the budgetary limit.
>
> I'll surely have a bunch more questions as I make progress over the next
> few months (the M2 will likely take several months to arrive), but I'd
> appreciate any advice in the interim.
>
> Thanks...
>
>


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