heh - Sorry.  replied to wrong email..  oops  (Boy that could have been 
really embarrassing...)

sam
On 4/15/2013 1:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 15 April 2013 13:22:31 Viesturs Lācis did opine:
>
>> 2013/4/15 andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>
>>
>>> On 15 April 2013 11:00, Gregg Eshelman <g_ala...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> The crossover counters any offset push at one end of the gantry with
>>>> an
>>> equal pull in the same direction at the opposite end. The theory page
>>> shows how it works.
>>>
>>> I have stared at the diagrams for long enough now that I have changed
>>> my mind several times. I might have to build one to see.
>>>
>>>> Does LinuxCNC have H-bot support? CoreXY should drive identically.
>>> Not built-in, but:
>>>
>>> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-qu
>>> estions/26302-cnc-avec-systeme-h-bot-ou-corexy
>> Hmm, it is not the first time I see links to that Russian forum and with
>> every time I get stronger and stronger impression that those LinuxCNC
>> users that hang out there is a completely separate community...
>>
>> Anyway, I just cannot figure out, how to set up homing routine to home
>> such a machine to some switches.
> Use the sign of the HOME_SEARCH_VELOCITY to control which switch its
> looking for.  Then HOME_OFFSET with a sign can set home to any position.
> Then in case the home switches are off in a corner someplace and you have
> to jog the machine to a suitable starting position before invoking the
> homing operation, run it to where the first switch is available quickly,
> and use the HOME_SEQUENCE number to put all the home ops in the proper
> order.
>
> On my lathe, a grep of the .ini for HOME returns this:
> In [TRAJ]
> HOME_ALL      = 1 (one home all button in axis)
>
> In x [AXIS_0]
> HOME = 1.250  (where it parks it when done)
> HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = YES
> HOME_USE_INDEX = NO  (if servo's, could be useful)
> HOME_OFFSET = 0.01000000 (where it marks it as 0.0 from where its at)
> HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -0.08 (in machine units, IPS IOW)
> HOME_LATCH_VEL = -.008
> HOME_FINAL_VEL = -.1
> HOME_IS_SHARED        = 1 (one logic signal is input for all homes)
> HOME_SEQUENCE = 1 (second one to be done)
>
>
> In z [AXIS_2]
> HOME = 4.250  (where it marks it as being when finished)
> HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = YES
> HOME_USE_INDEX = NO
> HOME_OFFSET = 4.090 ( distance in this case from left face of gauge to face
> of pcb on right face of gauge)
> HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -0.08
> HOME_LATCH_VEL        = -0.015
> HOME_FINAL_VEL = 0.25
> HOME_IS_SHARED = 1
> HOME_SEQUENCE = 0 (first to home)
>
> I place a gauge I made on the ways, backed up against the work piece as
> chucked, place a cleaned cutting tool next to the pcb copper that is the Z
> detector on the gauge, and hit the HOME_ALL button,  It searches z for
> contact, sets the home offset such that 0.0z is shaving the rust off the
> chuck jaws, or if work is chucked, touching the face of the work.  Then it
> backs away a wee bit and searches inward to find the contact for the x
> home, finds that piece of pcb, sets home to pretty close to the center of
> the work (I'm still fine tuning that) then parks the tool back out of the
> way till its needed.
>
> yerp, buzz, yerp, yerp, buzz, yerp, done in about 7 seconds.
>
> If the ways and base of my tool are lox clean, repeatable to under .001".
> That however is a major problem for x as it tilts the gauge just for a good
> coat of vactra on the ways.  I need to make the rear, huge flat area into a
> single point contact with the back in order to penetrate the oil film and
> possibly leave a little room for dust, between it and the flat back way on
> that toy lathe.
>
> The man page on homing could be clearer, but careful rereads will point the
> way as there are many, many variations.  And there are N! ways to screw it
> up.  :)
>
> The only fly in this ointment is that it all goes totally, absolutely to
> hell if you have applied /any/ touch offs, and in my case I would call not
> canceling the touch off in effect as the first thing the homing operation
> does a bug.  Ditto for trying to use position.txt, as that also
> contaminates the zero's this sets.
>
> IMO its a BUG, and for me a BIG BUG, requiring that I first stop linuxcnc,
> nuke the position.txt AND the linuxcnc.vars files before restarting
> linuxcnc, so that it truly starts from scratch when homing.
>
> Touching the HOME button should first NUKE any touch off offsets in effect
> at the time for the axis being homed.
>
> It does not, so home is then relative to the &^$#@ offset.  I have broken
> tools and wrecked nearly finished parts because of this, several times.
>
> Is there a valid reason for the current, save the offsets behavior?
>
> Cheers, Gene


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