even more so for me now :)

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:48 PM, jeremy youngs <jcyoung...@gmail.com> wrote:

> yeah im kinda fond of the old man myself :)
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:42 PM, sam sokolik <sa...@empirescreen.com>wrote:
>
>> Thanks  :)
>>
>> love you
>> sam
>> On 4/15/2013 1:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> > On Monday 15 April 2013 13:22:31 Viesturs Lācis did opine:
>> >
>> >> 2013/4/15 andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >>> On 15 April 2013 11:00, Gregg Eshelman <g_ala...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>>> The crossover counters any offset push at one end of the gantry with
>> >>>> an
>> >>> equal pull in the same direction at the opposite end. The theory page
>> >>> shows how it works.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have stared at the diagrams for long enough now that I have changed
>> >>> my mind several times. I might have to build one to see.
>> >>>
>> >>>> Does LinuxCNC have H-bot support? CoreXY should drive identically.
>> >>> Not built-in, but:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-qu
>> >>> estions/26302-cnc-avec-systeme-h-bot-ou-corexy
>> >> Hmm, it is not the first time I see links to that Russian forum and
>> with
>> >> every time I get stronger and stronger impression that those LinuxCNC
>> >> users that hang out there is a completely separate community...
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, I just cannot figure out, how to set up homing routine to home
>> >> such a machine to some switches.
>> > Use the sign of the HOME_SEARCH_VELOCITY to control which switch its
>> > looking for.  Then HOME_OFFSET with a sign can set home to any position.
>> > Then in case the home switches are off in a corner someplace and you
>> have
>> > to jog the machine to a suitable starting position before invoking the
>> > homing operation, run it to where the first switch is available quickly,
>> > and use the HOME_SEQUENCE number to put all the home ops in the proper
>> > order.
>> >
>> > On my lathe, a grep of the .ini for HOME returns this:
>> > In [TRAJ]
>> > HOME_ALL      = 1 (one home all button in axis)
>> >
>> > In x [AXIS_0]
>> > HOME = 1.250  (where it parks it when done)
>> > HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = YES
>> > HOME_USE_INDEX = NO  (if servo's, could be useful)
>> > HOME_OFFSET = 0.01000000 (where it marks it as 0.0 from where its at)
>> > HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -0.08 (in machine units, IPS IOW)
>> > HOME_LATCH_VEL = -.008
>> > HOME_FINAL_VEL = -.1
>> > HOME_IS_SHARED        = 1 (one logic signal is input for all homes)
>> > HOME_SEQUENCE = 1 (second one to be done)
>> >
>> >
>> > In z [AXIS_2]
>> > HOME = 4.250  (where it marks it as being when finished)
>> > HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = YES
>> > HOME_USE_INDEX = NO
>> > HOME_OFFSET = 4.090 ( distance in this case from left face of gauge to
>> face
>> > of pcb on right face of gauge)
>> > HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -0.08
>> > HOME_LATCH_VEL        = -0.015
>> > HOME_FINAL_VEL = 0.25
>> > HOME_IS_SHARED = 1
>> > HOME_SEQUENCE = 0 (first to home)
>> >
>> > I place a gauge I made on the ways, backed up against the work piece as
>> > chucked, place a cleaned cutting tool next to the pcb copper that is
>> the Z
>> > detector on the gauge, and hit the HOME_ALL button,  It searches z for
>> > contact, sets the home offset such that 0.0z is shaving the rust off the
>> > chuck jaws, or if work is chucked, touching the face of the work.  Then
>> it
>> > backs away a wee bit and searches inward to find the contact for the x
>> > home, finds that piece of pcb, sets home to pretty close to the center
>> of
>> > the work (I'm still fine tuning that) then parks the tool back out of
>> the
>> > way till its needed.
>> >
>> > yerp, buzz, yerp, yerp, buzz, yerp, done in about 7 seconds.
>> >
>> > If the ways and base of my tool are lox clean, repeatable to under
>> .001".
>> > That however is a major problem for x as it tilts the gauge just for a
>> good
>> > coat of vactra on the ways.  I need to make the rear, huge flat area
>> into a
>> > single point contact with the back in order to penetrate the oil film
>> and
>> > possibly leave a little room for dust, between it and the flat back way
>> on
>> > that toy lathe.
>> >
>> > The man page on homing could be clearer, but careful rereads will point
>> the
>> > way as there are many, many variations.  And there are N! ways to screw
>> it
>> > up.  :)
>> >
>> > The only fly in this ointment is that it all goes totally, absolutely to
>> > hell if you have applied /any/ touch offs, and in my case I would call
>> not
>> > canceling the touch off in effect as the first thing the homing
>> operation
>> > does a bug.  Ditto for trying to use position.txt, as that also
>> > contaminates the zero's this sets.
>> >
>> > IMO its a BUG, and for me a BIG BUG, requiring that I first stop
>> linuxcnc,
>> > nuke the position.txt AND the linuxcnc.vars files before restarting
>> > linuxcnc, so that it truly starts from scratch when homing.
>> >
>> > Touching the HOME button should first NUKE any touch off offsets in
>> effect
>> > at the time for the axis being homed.
>> >
>> > It does not, so home is then relative to the &^$#@ offset.  I have
>> broken
>> > tools and wrecked nearly finished parts because of this, several times.
>> >
>> > Is there a valid reason for the current, save the offsets behavior?
>> >
>> > Cheers, Gene
>>
>>
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