yeah im kinda fond of the old man myself :)

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:42 PM, sam sokolik <sa...@empirescreen.com> wrote:

> Thanks  :)
>
> love you
> sam
> On 4/15/2013 1:28 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 15 April 2013 13:22:31 Viesturs Lācis did opine:
> >
> >> 2013/4/15 andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >>> On 15 April 2013 11:00, Gregg Eshelman <g_ala...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> The crossover counters any offset push at one end of the gantry with
> >>>> an
> >>> equal pull in the same direction at the opposite end. The theory page
> >>> shows how it works.
> >>>
> >>> I have stared at the diagrams for long enough now that I have changed
> >>> my mind several times. I might have to build one to see.
> >>>
> >>>> Does LinuxCNC have H-bot support? CoreXY should drive identically.
> >>> Not built-in, but:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-qu
> >>> estions/26302-cnc-avec-systeme-h-bot-ou-corexy
> >> Hmm, it is not the first time I see links to that Russian forum and with
> >> every time I get stronger and stronger impression that those LinuxCNC
> >> users that hang out there is a completely separate community...
> >>
> >> Anyway, I just cannot figure out, how to set up homing routine to home
> >> such a machine to some switches.
> > Use the sign of the HOME_SEARCH_VELOCITY to control which switch its
> > looking for.  Then HOME_OFFSET with a sign can set home to any position.
> > Then in case the home switches are off in a corner someplace and you have
> > to jog the machine to a suitable starting position before invoking the
> > homing operation, run it to where the first switch is available quickly,
> > and use the HOME_SEQUENCE number to put all the home ops in the proper
> > order.
> >
> > On my lathe, a grep of the .ini for HOME returns this:
> > In [TRAJ]
> > HOME_ALL      = 1 (one home all button in axis)
> >
> > In x [AXIS_0]
> > HOME = 1.250  (where it parks it when done)
> > HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = YES
> > HOME_USE_INDEX = NO  (if servo's, could be useful)
> > HOME_OFFSET = 0.01000000 (where it marks it as 0.0 from where its at)
> > HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -0.08 (in machine units, IPS IOW)
> > HOME_LATCH_VEL = -.008
> > HOME_FINAL_VEL = -.1
> > HOME_IS_SHARED        = 1 (one logic signal is input for all homes)
> > HOME_SEQUENCE = 1 (second one to be done)
> >
> >
> > In z [AXIS_2]
> > HOME = 4.250  (where it marks it as being when finished)
> > HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = YES
> > HOME_USE_INDEX = NO
> > HOME_OFFSET = 4.090 ( distance in this case from left face of gauge to
> face
> > of pcb on right face of gauge)
> > HOME_SEARCH_VEL = -0.08
> > HOME_LATCH_VEL        = -0.015
> > HOME_FINAL_VEL = 0.25
> > HOME_IS_SHARED = 1
> > HOME_SEQUENCE = 0 (first to home)
> >
> > I place a gauge I made on the ways, backed up against the work piece as
> > chucked, place a cleaned cutting tool next to the pcb copper that is the
> Z
> > detector on the gauge, and hit the HOME_ALL button,  It searches z for
> > contact, sets the home offset such that 0.0z is shaving the rust off the
> > chuck jaws, or if work is chucked, touching the face of the work.  Then
> it
> > backs away a wee bit and searches inward to find the contact for the x
> > home, finds that piece of pcb, sets home to pretty close to the center of
> > the work (I'm still fine tuning that) then parks the tool back out of the
> > way till its needed.
> >
> > yerp, buzz, yerp, yerp, buzz, yerp, done in about 7 seconds.
> >
> > If the ways and base of my tool are lox clean, repeatable to under .001".
> > That however is a major problem for x as it tilts the gauge just for a
> good
> > coat of vactra on the ways.  I need to make the rear, huge flat area
> into a
> > single point contact with the back in order to penetrate the oil film and
> > possibly leave a little room for dust, between it and the flat back way
> on
> > that toy lathe.
> >
> > The man page on homing could be clearer, but careful rereads will point
> the
> > way as there are many, many variations.  And there are N! ways to screw
> it
> > up.  :)
> >
> > The only fly in this ointment is that it all goes totally, absolutely to
> > hell if you have applied /any/ touch offs, and in my case I would call
> not
> > canceling the touch off in effect as the first thing the homing operation
> > does a bug.  Ditto for trying to use position.txt, as that also
> > contaminates the zero's this sets.
> >
> > IMO its a BUG, and for me a BIG BUG, requiring that I first stop
> linuxcnc,
> > nuke the position.txt AND the linuxcnc.vars files before restarting
> > linuxcnc, so that it truly starts from scratch when homing.
> >
> > Touching the HOME button should first NUKE any touch off offsets in
> effect
> > at the time for the axis being homed.
> >
> > It does not, so home is then relative to the &^$#@ offset.  I have broken
> > tools and wrecked nearly finished parts because of this, several times.
> >
> > Is there a valid reason for the current, save the offsets behavior?
> >
> > Cheers, Gene
>
>
>
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