On Friday 28 February 2014 12:48:57 Jon Elson did opine:

> On 02/28/2014 12:31 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > This latter is a common lament from all of us table
> > toppers I imagine. I am amazed that they put in something
> > that can only turn 2500 revs, then we put motors on it
> > that are fully capable of moving fast enough to stall said
> > motor even when its in low gear, and that of coarse leaves
> > you with a pair of carbide pieces worth 10 to 20 bucks, to
> > be dropped in the recycled carbide container. That was why
> > I was asking a few weeks back about those 12k rpm R8
> > spindles on fleabay.
> 
> The Taig "CNC" mill has a 10K RPM belt drive scheme.
> I think it would be fairly easy to get higher speeds on
> many of the tabletop machines with minimal work.
> 
> > You folks shot me down saying the run out was probably
> > well over 3 or 4 thou. These little table toppers really
> > ought to have spindles capable of marching that 1/8" 2
> > flute carbide bit, plowing a slot .06125" deep in an alu
> > workpiece (with mist lube & prayers that its hard alu so
> > it cuts clean & doesn't gum fill the bit=instant quiet
> > little "tink"
> 
> The trick to aluminum is to take shallow cuts at a high
> feedrate,
> and repeat with enough passes to get to the depth you need.
> The high feedrate sees to it that the aluminum doesn't get hot
> enough to soften.  And, 90 F is enough to soften it!

Tell me about it!  I bought a block of alu scrap, nominally 
7"x7"x30something" long, and have been slicing off the pieces that I need 
for raw material.  Even with a mister going, I can't work that stuff at all 
when its over 90 in the shop.  I can make nice stuff at 50F just fine 
though.  Its a right PIMA when its nice & comfy out.  Even on the bandsaw 
table as I freehand the piece, if the sun is shining on the saw, I can gum 
up and seize the blade if I'm not careful or don't keep a crayon of door-
eze handy to give the blade a coat of wax frequently.

> I had an accident many years ago with a 1/8" piece of 2024
> aluminum and a 1/8" solid carbide tool that gave me some ideas
> of what they can take.  I forgot to set the Z first, and the
> tool
> plunged full-depth into the plate and started running across
> it at 40 IPM.  It was cutting JUST FINE, depth = tool diameter,
> and full width in the aluminum!  It was only when I hit E-stop
> that the cutter broke!  This was at 2720 RPM (fastest my
> mill goes without overspeeding the motor.)

Sounds like the spindle stopped quicker than the mill. I am familiar with 
that myself. :(
 
> Jon
> 
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