Stuart,
I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. Anyone that has run a
commercial control can see that there are quite a few differences and
options that are not build into the basic linuxCNC control. Sure you can
add a lot of whatever you want but it seems like some should work or at
least have the option of working right off the bat when it is installed for
say a mill or lathe setup. There are a lot of things that I was able to do
on the Haas control that I would need to add custom work for in the
linuxCNC control. Having said that tho there are already a great many
things to like about linuxCNC. The graphical display is quite good and it
is nice to be able to see toolpaths clearly and affirm what you programmed
into the machine is actually what is going to happen. The haas control had
almost zero of that for all intents and purposes. I am about to embark on a
CNC lathe build for my shop here and I am anxious to see how it will work.
Apparenlty there are a lot of nice conversational controls available with
it which sounds real nice altho I am a CAD CAM guy at heart really. I
think you are correct when you say that linuxCNC has so much more
capability and configurability for so many options that people will HAVE to
gravitate to it when their cnc retrofit projects move to the next level. I
think most go with mach3 because they have lots of folks running simple 3
axis table top machines and there are tons of guys just playing around with
it. When you have to step up to a more commercial machine or simply add
multiple axes and probing and other things is when the gap widens
substantially.
This is just my opinion of what I have seen so far of the control. I am
now a believer in linuxCNC and would not switch to mach3 or most any other
control for that matter from what I have seen so far. Just wish it was a
little easier for the non-techie guys like me to be able to setup things is
really my only gripe. Peace
Pete
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Stuart Stevenson <stus...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Gentlemen,
> I guess I was not clearly expressing myself.
> This may be a little more direct.
> I don't see ANY competition between Mach and LinuxCNC. When you compare the
> quality of apple to the quality of oranges any argument fails.
> The competition between the "new" youngsters and "old" cnc guys does not
> exist either. When the youngsters need the capability of LinuxCNC then they
> will learn it and adopt it.
> I see service guys (here in Wichita) that will not 'consider' putting a
> garden variety PC on a machine tool. That would be heresy.
> It is difficult to get some of them to come in and service the commercial
> controls they specialize in.
>
> They will not even look at the LinuxCNC running in my shop. They will not
> discuss it with me. History of more than a decade of PC based solutions
> here (first with MDSI's OpenCNC installed in 1997 still running and then
> multiple LinuxCNC installs) has no sway in the argument.
>
> One consolation is "they will not consider Mach either".
>
> All PC based solutions are lumped together in one trash bin.
>
> I do not mean to ignore progress in all other solutions. We need to improve
> the LinuxCNC solution. Not so it is more competitive with another solution
> but so the LinuxCNC users are more competitive with their competition. We
> can worry about what another solution has but if we don't have solutions
> that enhance LinuxCNC we will lose because it cannot be used profitably in
> industry.
>
> If the LinuxCNC community improves the solution then progress is made. The
> way I see it we need to show the installed base of users and techs LinuxCNC
> is a viable solution. Then we will have more competent people installing
> and using LinuxCNC. That will then allow the 'new' blood to learn how to
> make a real machine run.
>
> now this is 4 cents :)
> Stuart
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Kirk Wallace <
> kwall...@wallacecompany.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 10/22/2014 08:24 AM, Charles Buckley wrote:
> > ... snip
> >
> > > You want people to adopt LinuxCNC? You have to tie it to a new machine
> > that
> > > is cutting edge, then bill it as open source. Right now, Instructables
> is
> > ... snip
> >
> > Hows about:
> > http://www.tormach.com/product_lathe.html
> >
> > --
> > Kirk Wallace
> > http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/
> > http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/
> >
> >
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