On Sunday 19 April 2015 22:01:29 Tom Easterday wrote: > There are quite a few early attributes of the phrase. Like all things > these days it gets attributed to someone on the Internet and sticks > regardless of the truth. I guess we need to find the actual writings > to verify. I have read (nearly) everything Hemingway has written and > I don’t recall it, though it has been many years since I read it and I > could certainly be mistaken. Given that it (may?) appear to have been > written ~80 years before Hemingway perhaps he did use it. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_ain't_no_such_thing_as_a_free_lunch > http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/tanstaafl.html > Strangely, neither of those sites mention Hemingway. I was going by an editorial in one of the scifi rags back in the 70's where RAH was said to have disclaimed the phrase, crediting Hemingway as the person he borrowed it from. I can't lay my hand on the good book and say it, but I believe it was in one of Stanley Schmidt's editorials in Analog. When Stanley took over after Hugo, I had been used to Hogo's style of editing, but it only took 3 or 4 of Stanley's editorials to convince me I was reading the output of the smartest man then alive.
For instance, when we killed those 3 astronauts in Houston, he went both ballistic and into teaching mode, stateing that the fire that did them in would have been nothing more than a tripped breaker in space, and went on to explain that the short would have started a fire, but that because in a zero gravity situation, there would not have been any gravity driven convection currents to bring fresh oxygen to the fire, so it would have silently smothered itself before it was as big as a marble, in its own combustion products. The real stupidity, and I have to agree, was that in space, the cabin pressure is something around 5 psi of fairly pure oxygen. Enough to support the men breathing it with faceplates open. But somebody wanted a fscking pressure test at the same effective overpressure of about 5 psi, above normal atmospheric, or damned near 20 psi in the capsule. That, combined with gravity driven convection currents bringing fresh pure oxygen to the fire, literally turned the inside of the capsule into an estimated 6000F inferno in 2 or 3 seconds. Since the hatch opens inward, and could not be opened against the inside pressure, rising rapidly because of the fire, it was said, and I looked at the capsule fairly closely, there were no smudges on the hatch handles that I could see from the limited angles the public was allowed to look, they were dead before they could reach the handles. I don't recall whether I saw it during a visit to the Cape, or when it was on display at the Smithsonian. One of those 2 places. Heck, I think the History Channel even had some footage of it 30 years later, but like the press, made no attempt to explain why it burnt so fast. But the press, then as now, was totally in the CYA mode, so that explanation never got an ounce of ink in the press of the day. And I don't trust the press to even tell me the day of the week since. There were a goodly number of good sensible people playing follow the leader that day, and IMO they should have stood in court on charges of at least manslaughter. The public would have settled for nothing less. Heads in baskets would have been demanded. Its all ancient history now, but it still makes me sad. It was distilled, pure stupidity that killed those good men. I'll get me coat now. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VA_SF _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
