On Wednesday 09 September 2015 06:52:01 Erik Christiansen wrote:

> On 08.09.15 10:09, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > As has been mentioned here before, Gene, keeping chewing-gum grade
> > > Al cool is the trick, and metho does that very well, without mess.
> >
> > Metho?  Thats a slang I've not encountered.
>
> Whoops, that may then be an Australianism. It's just Methylated
> Spirits, i.e. ethanol with a trace of something to discourage drinking
> it, typically pyridine, I think. I'll have to admit that I don't know
> what it's called in baseball & gridiron territory. (Did spend 10 days
> in Texas, once - not long enough to pick up the language.)
>
Must be. It would be "methanol" here I believe. Quite dangerous as its 
quite flamable and it burns with an almost invisible blue flame. A fuel 
line leak thats burning is impossible to see out in the daylight 
environment of a top fuel dragster.
> ...
>
> > Some of the 1/2" plate I made that jackshaft frame out of must have
> > quite a bit in it, it machines great, but sounds as if I am grinding
> > glass.
>
> Some age hardening Al I alloyed with a bit of Cu and bit of Zn
> (decades ago) went so hard that a round-column mill-drill baulked at
> cutting it. I had to take it home, anneal it in the oven, and ask the
> operator to try again before it re-hardened. (IIRC, tensile strength
> can be taken from 10 T/in^2 to 25.)

Now thats hard alu. I've cut 7078-T6 but it was not that hard, my toy 
mill had what it took.
> ...
>
> > > Yesterday, though, I just cranked up the spindle RPM so the chips
> > > were flung off, and forgot about coolant on two pieces of
> > > extrusion, it went so well.
> >
> > My facing went well, 1/4" bit, 3mm stepover, 1100 revs and about 450
> > mm/minute feed.  And a bit of wd-40 when the bit looked as if it was
> > starting to pack.
>
> That's a 20 mm circumference bit, so 22 m/min cutting speed, i.e. 1/5
> of the minimum recommended in the machining book I have lying here,
> but on many a mill, hard to even double. Looks like we all need a high
> speed spindle. The feed/tooth looks good, though.
>
> > And the jig to hold the motor worked well enough once I found a
> > decently sharp pilot bit.  That big chuck is a bitch, as it will not
> > hold a drill under 3mm shank, so a 1/16" bit wasn't usable. So I
> > need to obtain another R8/smaller jacobs shank (or a 3/8" threaded
> > one) & mount a smaller drill chuck.  Thats stuff for my bucket
> > list...
>
> A small diameter drill bit is also likely to wander. In the absence of
> a spotting bit, a centre drill (Slocombe bit) grabbed from the lathe
> is an adequate hole starter on the mill, I find, and is well over 3mm
> in the shank.

I considered that, but the smallest of those I have is about the drill 
size needed for a 4mm thread, so I didn't make the walk up the hill to 
get the kit. I did sharpen the bit I used a couple times as the shaft 
steel was harder to cut than the flywheel forging.  Neither are 
particularly hard, but I only had 1/4" sticking out of the chuck so I 
just fed it very slowly and moved the mill until the starting dimple was 
where I wanted it.  Good enough for the girls I go with. :)
>
> > > Piping kero about the workshop sounds distinctly scary to me.
> >
> > Me too. I don't smoke anymore, quite about 27 years ago, and in the
> > usage for EDM, I haven't ever had a fire even when using a big
> > enough power supply that it could be heard a coule blocks away when
> > running.
>
> The locals could hear it a range of couple of blocks, while running
> away?

Probably.  OTOH, they are used to the mad scientist I am, and likely 
wouldn't run unless it went boom.

> > Water soluble oil? Heavy on emulsifiers I expect.
>
> The emulsifier's included. Just add water.
>
> > What do I ask for?
>
> Here's a typical product: (Just a poor choice for shipping, in your
> case.)
>
> http://www.machineryhouse.com.au/S090A

Link blocked, with a "doing maintenance" graphic.

> I'd ask for "soluble oil cutting fluid'.
> (You can dilute that 1L pack to 20L, with water.)

Or similar wording is what I had in mind.  With the lathe being such a 
problem child, that aspect has not been given any great amount of 
time/research.  It, like the tool changer, is on my bucket list.

And by now I should be having to walk around a pile of Mahogany 1x12's, 
12 foot long in the garage, and I am not. I may call them when the lathe 
is working again so I can finish the spindle lock I have started.

And now I really should get back to reassembling that lathe, if the 
overnight slow run hasn't screwed the moose.

Thanks Erik

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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