On Tuesday 22 September 2015 10:39:05 Mark Wendt wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> 
wrote:
> >> All it takes is a bit of interference in the band of radios waves
> >> those devices use.  I still prefer hardwired connections rather
> >> than trusting radio waves on stuff like that.  Or, as you
> >> mentioned, the batteries.  It only has to happen once.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >
> > This also is true, but I am not in an industrial environment where
> > such interference is at all common.  Whats in the shop or garage is
> > not of course semi-shielded by the alu siding on this house and
> > would be 10+ db more susceptible.  This is a relatively quiet, 50
> > yards from the city limits residential area, with more electronics
> > here than exists anyplace but a fast food place in the whole town, a
> > physical limit enforced by a huge to me hill that only small
> > children could negotiate, very thick brush, but don't as its also
> > multiflora rose and copperhead country.  So here, that interference
> > has not been a problem. I think that isolation from technology is
> > without a doubt a good thing for me.
> >
> > I have no experience in a busy job shop with 5 or more machines in
> > the same big room.  In the shop in the back yard, the toy mill and
> > the lathe are about 4 feet apart, but the lathe is the only wireless
> > equipt machine.  The operating position of the toy mill is actually
> > above the right end of its table, so I can see it well while jogging
> > with my right hand.  No need for the radios.
> >
> > In the garage with the GO704, I do need to put up a sheet of lexan
> > to deflect airborne swarf between the operating position and the
> > machine as it would help keep swarf out of both the keyboard and my
> > coffee cup. :)
> >
> > OTOH, the spindle motors max at 1 hp here, are the strongest motors
> > involved. All could throw a key on startup plenty hard enough to
> > hurt.
> >
> > Axis motors are more than strong enough to break or crush tools
> > though. I sheared a 4 mm capscrew sunday by leaving something on the
> > bellows I had added to better shield the Y ball screw from debris,
> > so they are certainly capable of crushing a wayward finger.  One of
> > todays projects I think along with finding a fly cutter to level the
> > front of that jig addition installed yesterday. And I need to make
> > some narrow, say 5" wide, binder high pocket shelving additions to
> > the "furniture" for holding gcode manuals and printouts of some of
> > the files so I don't forget what it was I was doing. :)
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> Gene,
>
> Like I said, it's my dislike for radio waves in an environment where
> they are the connection between the controller and the machine.  Being
> a radio tech in the USAF, working with both voice radios and ECM gear,
> I know it doesn't take much to disrupt communications, both voice and
> data.  Voice is a little more forgiving than data.  If a voice
> transmission is disrupted/corrupted, you can ask for a repeat.  If a
> data transmission is corrupted, the machine isn't always smart enough
> to ask for a repeat - it may take the corrupted packet as legit.
>
> There may not be any commercial or residential interference nearby
> you, but there's that really big interference generator 93 million
> miles away from your doorstep that appears every day.  ;-)
>
> When something absolutely has to have a solid connection, whether it's
> controller to machine, or keyboard to the controller, you just can't
> beat a good shielded hardware connection between the two.
>
> Mark

Chuckle, good, shielded, and hardware.  Pick any 2. :)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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