That could be a work around for uncooperative cell phone companies, but 
it would make things much more complex.
I didn't realize that Google has a VPN cloud solution.

Thanks,  Dave

On 10/17/2015 5:09 PM, Jerry Scharf wrote:
> Sorry, that's cloud based. bad fingers!
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Jerry Scharf <jsch...@finsix.com> wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> It might be possible to get a could based VPN service that supports the
>> phones and other devices in question. The idea is that this are some known
>> end points that all the devices connect to and establish an ad hoc VPN. I
>> have not used any of these services and have absolutely no idea of the
>> bandwidth to expect, but it would be far and away the easiest way to get
>> devices that are really only end stations to connect to each other.
>>
>> jerry
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I need a fast connection as we want to be able to do remote video and
>>> also do debugging of the PLC control remotely via the comm link with the
>>> help of a remote video camera.
>>>
>>> One problem that I am having is that Sprint wants to control what device
>>> I use.   They literally offer one device at a time and the last one was
>>> a 4G router that only supports VPN Passthrough even though they were
>>> "sure" that it would support a site to site VPN connection.
>>> I don't want to have two remote routers or boxes in the cabinet. Cost is
>>> not a problem.   The Netgear 6100D I have used is $200 and that is
>>> considered very cheap.  $600 would not be out of line if it can do what
>>> we want and has a fairly wide temperature range. This device will be in
>>> a box mounted outside.
>>>
>>> I can't use OpenVPN because there is no PC or server at the remote site.
>>>
>>> A GSM solution with AT&T would be ideal if they have sufficient coverage
>>> since swapping out the 4G router would only require swapping the SIM
>>> card instead of going through the ridiculous device activation routine
>>> that Sprint and Verizon requires.
>>>
>>> I think that AT&T will be my next call.  I've pretty much run out of
>>> patience with Sprint.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On 10/16/2015 11:50 PM, Tom Easterday wrote:
>>>> You didn't say what kind of throughput you need nor what your budget is
>>> but one option is something like a Cisco RV320 on each end with 4G modems
>>> attached.  You can see a review of the router here:
>>>>
>>> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-reviews/32317-cisco-rv320-dual-gigabit-wan-vpn-router-reviewed?limitstart=0
>>>> There is also a you tube video on configuring the modem:
>>> http://youtu.be/RXerRGEZFEI
>>>> I recommended the RV180 for a friend's business that needed sts vpn
>>> (over public internet, not over cellular) and it worked well for him and he
>>> said it was easy for them to set up and use.
>>>> There are of course other more diy setups using cell phones with
>>> tethering and using OpenVPN or such on your own processors.  But you have
>>> to be careful as carriers may try to limit or block always on use of
>>> tethering and data plans may not fit your requirements.  Or you get some
>>> cellular wifi hotspots and use them with OpenVPN.
>>>> See:
>>>>
>>> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/other/security/security-howto/30353-how-to-set-up-a-site-to-site-vpn-with-openvpn
>>>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Key points - need help with a data cell phone connection to remote
>>>>> equipment via a VPN.
>>>>>
>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm working with some remotely located equipment and I need to
>>> establish
>>>>> a comm link to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have decided to go with a cell phone data connection.   We want to
>>> be
>>>>> able to remotely access this equipment via a "site to site" VPN.
>>>>> This is different than a client/server VPN connection that people
>>>>> oftentimes use to connect back to corporate headquarters for email,
>>> file
>>>>> sharing etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> The remote equipment is ethernet based but it is not a generic PC, it's
>>>>> a PLC.   So I need the remote cell phone modem/router to do all of the
>>>>> work of encrypting the data, establishing the VPN tunnel, etc.  It
>>> needs
>>>>> to be a VPN Router with a 4G modem built in that supports a "site to
>>>>> site connection" and not just be a Router with VPN passthrough.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sprint sells a Netgear 6100D 4G router that is suppose to do this. I
>>>>> bought it and then Sprint told me that they will not support remote
>>>>> access on this device!
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have any experience in doing this?   I've been talking to
>>>>> "experts" at Sprint and they want me to use a Sprint approved 4G
>>>>> cell/router that only supports VPN pass through after I have told them
>>>>> over and over that I need to do a site to site VPN with their 4G router
>>>>> acting as a VPN endpoint.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly, they don't understand the requirements.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ironically, TP Link sells a "wired" VPN router for about $60 that does
>>>>> what I need, so I could "stack" routers to do what I need, but I really
>>>>> don't want to have two routers in the remote control box.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are some really brilliant people on this list so I am hoping that
>>>>> someone can give me some advice/direction etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank You!
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
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