On Wednesday 04 November 2015 09:10:56 John Thornton wrote:

> I see that from time to time on my LAN which I have two Windoze and 5
> or 6 Linux computer on it. Usually only a reboot will fix the Windoze
> computers while the Linux computers IIRC will fix themselves if you
> power cycle the router or switch they are attached to. I think it is
> just a software issue but who knows...
>
> JT

It is John. Its evidence you are using dhcp as the hook means.
Things may have improved over the years since 10-04, but I've only used 
dhcp in the router to get me an ipv4 address for the router, everything 
else is host file based.  My /etc/hosts file:
=======================================
127.0.0.1 localhost
192.168.xx.1 router.coyote.den  router
192.168.xx.3 coyote.coyote.den  coyote
192.168.xx.4 shop.coyote.den    shop
192.168.xx.5 lathe.coyote.den   lathe
192.168.xx.6 lappy.coyote.den   lappy
192.168.xx.10 GO704.coyote.den  GO704
========================================
Identical on all machines

And my /etc/resolv.conf from any machine
=========================
search this-machines-name
nameserver 192.168.xx.1
order host,dns
=========================
This one made immutable with a sudo chattr +i specifically to keep 
network-mangler from mangling it if its still installed. 

Then you can configure /etc/network/interfaces to look something like 
this:
======================
# list of interfaces to bring up at boot
auto lo eth0

# interface lo
iface lo inet loopback
address 127.0.0.1
netmask 255.0.0.0

# interface eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.xx.3
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.xx.1
========================
Where the last number of the eth0 address is that machine.

And if network-mangler is still installed, sudo chattr +i that file too 
to  keep it from being re-written by mangler.  In wheezy, N-M can be 
removed.

On all the linux machines.

I don't do windows, any flavor, so I can't advise on that.  But the last 
time I setup a neighbors windows machine, that is exactly what I did as 
he had a router that could NAT, so I made it so.
>
> On 11/4/2015 8:01 AM, Rick Lair wrote:
> > Maybe not the right place to ask, but, regarding the networking, why
> > would randomly you not be able to see other network computers? Right
> > now from either my winxp desktop, or my ubuntu 10.04 desktop, I
> > can't see any of the other network computers, or my machines.
> > Connection issues, bad hardware?
Can you ping them by name?
Can you get their address from an ifconfig report on each machine, then 
go ping them by address from another machine?

The latter, as long as they are all in the same class D address space but 
you can't ping them by address, I'd say you have hardware problems.

> > Rick
> >
> > On 11/4/2015 8:27 AM, John Thornton wrote:
> >> If he is doing that from a Windoze computer you can configure the
> >> right click Send To for each machine so it's a one click op to send
> >> the file.
> >>
> >> JT
> >>
> >> On 11/4/2015 7:16 AM, Rick Lair wrote:
> >>> It was an absolute requirement that I got that to work, probably
> >>> like yours, we now have multiple machines in the shop running
> >>> Linuxcnc, and thumb drives are easy to lose, so I have all the
> >>> machines networked together, so the guy in the office that makes
> >>> the programs, can drop the finished g code program right into the
> >>> nc_files folder in the respective machine, right from his desk.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Rick
> >>>
> >>> On 11/4/2015 8:09 AM, John Thornton wrote:
> >>>> Sweet, and it works! What a PITA to have to do this just to get
> >>>> an OS to do basic things. I'm still hoping someone will chime in
> >>>> that has built a real time kernel for Linux Mint so I can try
> >>>> that.
> >>>>
> >>>> JT
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/4/2015 6:55 AM, Rick Lair wrote:
> >>>>> Now you should be able to right click on the the folder icon you
> >>>>> want tot share, see the "Share" tab, and be able to click down
> >>>>> through and setup folder sharing on your network for that
> >>>>> respective folder,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 11/4/2015 7:51 AM, John Thornton wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Rick,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I followed the directions for adding folder sharing to Thunar
> >>>>>> but don't see any difference. What is is supposed to do?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> JT
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 11/3/2015 9:59 AM, Rick Lair wrote:
> >>>>>>> John,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Attached are some of my notes that I have found to be working
> >>>>>>> in regards to sharing over the network on Debian.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You may have already tried these, but this is what I have
> >>>>>>> found.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Rick
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 11/3/2015 10:44 AM, John Thornton wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Samba is installed...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 11/3/2015 9:26 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 3 November 2015 at 15:19, John Thornton <j...@gnipsel.com> 
wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Networking is also hosed up on my Debian computers and try
> >>>>>>>>>> as I might I can't share files as freely around my LAN with
> >>>>>>>>>> the Debian computers.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You nay need to install Samba, it isn't there by default. I
> >>>>>>>>> don't know if Avahi is or not.

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