On Monday 14 March 2016 11:02:44 Todd Zuercher wrote:

> According to this doc. for that drive.
> http://www.exoror.com/datasheet/VFD.pdf
> Page 10-11 there should be screw terminals labeled P+ and Pr that are
> for connecting the braking resistor.  (They should be the 2 on the end
> just right of the motor outputs.) This is assuming the documentation
> is correct for that drive, which is sometimes a big assumption.
>
In this case yes, I have terminals for L0,L1,L2, GND, and UVW for the 
motor.  Thats it, as I have been saying.

This is an HY01D523B, a number that is not in the list of coverage that 
manual shows.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Heskett" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:26:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Using a vfd vs G33.1
>
> On Sunday 13 March 2016 22:05:11 Danny Miller wrote:
> > Which VFD is this?
> >
> > Danny
>
> A blue label in a matching sized depression on the right side claims
> it is a:
>
> HY01D523B
> With the I/O (1 to 3 phase) voltage (180-250) ratings and Frequency
> 40-60 hertz, power at 1.5kw.
> The next line says output 3ph, 220 volt,10 amps, 0-400 Hz
>
> But the booklet in the box claims its an:
>
> ASKPOWER A131, and the pix looks almost but not exactly the same, as
> the pix has a pot to the right of the stop/reset button that this unit
> does not have.
>
> Now, here's something interesting, I ebay searched for that model
> number, and came up with the exact same HY etc number.  But its rated
> at 2Kw, and _does_ have the resistor callouts on the customer
> interface according to the ebay pix! $129 + ship, about $30. 
> Essentially the same as I paid for this one.
>
> Ok, so now I know they are available.  And I'm a bit smarter about
> what I buy next time.  So, this one, which seems to work and would be
> right at home on a gantry router, is officially for sale, first
> picture of Ben (on a $100 dollar bill + ship in my hand owns it.  I
> paid about $160 for this one.
>
> Thanks everybody.
>
> > On 3/13/2016 8:52 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Sunday 13 March 2016 13:39:10 Jon Elson wrote:
> > >> On 03/13/2016 08:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >>> On Sunday 13 March 2016 09:30:30 John Thornton wrote:
> > >>>> I just used the the one for by the drive. I "think" not all
> > >>>> drives would use the same resistor. Just looking at the GS2 and
> > >>>> there are 12 different braking resistors.
> > >>>
> > >>> All of which are $435 a copy & still need some sort of an extra,
> > >>> external controller. AD thinks we are growing our own money on a
> > >>> tree in the back yard?
> > >>
> > >> MOST VFDs have the switch transistor built into the power
> > >> block.  (6 rectifiers and 7 IGBTs).
> > >> So, those only need the resistor added.  The purpose-built
> > >> braking resistors usually have a thermal overload sensor so
> > >> the drive shuts down if the resistor overheats.
> > >>
> > >> Jon
> > >
> > > Well, I just took this one down as far as I could get it by taking
> > > out screws abd unsnapping bits & peices w/o demolishing something,
> > > and there aren't any terminals called P or B, anyplace.  The only
> > > thing missing seems to be a short, fat electrolytic labeled C4 in
> > > the art work.  Every other hole in the boards has something in it.
> > > So I guess I tie the motor down with some clamps, and see how fast
> > > I can make it reverse from its own panel.
> > >
> > > I note that the interface terminl board has separate fwd and
> > > reverse outputs tallies.  But in the instructions, about how to
> > > configure it, both accel and decel times can be set as low as .01
> > > seconds.
> > >
> > > Panel 15 while configuring it says its the startup braking
> > > voltage, can be set from 1 to 100 volts.
> > >
> > > Panel 16 is startup braking time, ensuring that it starts from
> > > dead.
> > >
> > > Panel 17 is stop braking voltage, set 1 to 100 volts.
> > >
> > > Panel 18 is stop DC braking time, 0.00 to 650.00 seconds.
> > >
> > > Panel 19 selects the speed control input, choice of 5 different
> > > methods, I'd use 3 for External 0-5 volt and feed it the PWM from
> > > the 5i25, which I have been a ssured will work just fine.
> > >
> > > Skipping a bunch of stuff that it looks as if it might be used to
> > > counteract any non-linearities in the speed obtain vs commanded, 7
> > > settings available there.
> > >
> > > Skipping ahead to Panel 29,30,31 which are labeled
> > > 2nd accel time, 0.01 to 650 seconds
> > > 2nd decel time, same range
> > > 2nd decel stop frequency, .01 to 400 Hz, defining the output
> > > frequency where it switches, Panel 8 & 9 settings are used above
> > > this frequency, panel 29-30 used if below that frequency.
> > >
> > > On page 25 is a table of braking resistors, and that tables
> > > heading says:
> > >
> > > There are internal regenerat brake resistance in this series
> > > inverter from .75kw to 30 kw.  If extra brake torque is needed,
> > > please wire proper brake resistance, which in the table for this
> > > size inverter, 1.5kw, is a 100 ohm 250 watter.
> > >
> > > And thats all it has to say about braking resistors, but the
> > > device hasn't any terminals labeled P or B to which it shows the
> > > optional braking resistor is wired to. Seems I ought to feed it
> > > from the 5i25 just for S & G ...  But I have some more work to do
> > > on the mill before I tear that circuitry out & reroute to this
> > > thing so I can play.
> > >
> > > Damn I hate it when the hardware and the docs aren't even in the
> > > same country.
> > >
> > > Thanks, Jon, John & Danny, & anybony else that chimed in while I
> > > was wrecking some mahogany by miss-reading the tape measure.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
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