On Monday 14 March 2016 13:14:20 Todd Zuercher wrote:

> That part number is specifically listed on page 6 of the manual.  The
> terminal diagrams don't list every part number, but use ranges of
> numbers and your part number should have been induced in the range for
> the the first terminal diagram.  But none of that matters if your
> drive is different and only has 7 screw terminals instead of the
> normal 9 or 10.

Yup, 7 is all there is.

> A number of ebay adds for Huanyang VFDs warn about 
> counterfeit copies for sale, perhaps yours is one of the knock-offs.

I have not noted seeing those warnings, in any event I will buy another 
that does have a resistor hookup available.  This one works, and would 
work well indeed on someones wood carving gantry. As I said last night, 
the first pix on Ben on green government paper + ship (its not very 
heavy)  will own this one.

No sense of it going to waste even if I can't use it.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Heskett" <ghesk...@wdtv.com>
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 11:47:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Using a vfd vs G33.1
>
> On Monday 14 March 2016 11:02:44 Todd Zuercher wrote:
> > According to this doc. for that drive.
> > http://www.exoror.com/datasheet/VFD.pdf
> > Page 10-11 there should be screw terminals labeled P+ and Pr that
> > are for connecting the braking resistor.  (They should be the 2 on
> > the end just right of the motor outputs.) This is assuming the
> > documentation is correct for that drive, which is sometimes a big
> > assumption.
>
> In this case yes, I have terminals for L0,L1,L2, GND, and UVW for the
> motor.  Thats it, as I have been saying.
>
> This is an HY01D523B, a number that is not in the list of coverage
> that manual shows.
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gene Heskett" <ghesk...@wdtv.com>
> > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:26:38 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Using a vfd vs G33.1
> >
> > On Sunday 13 March 2016 22:05:11 Danny Miller wrote:
> > > Which VFD is this?
> > >
> > > Danny
> >
> > A blue label in a matching sized depression on the right side claims
> > it is a:
> >
> > HY01D523B
> > With the I/O (1 to 3 phase) voltage (180-250) ratings and Frequency
> > 40-60 hertz, power at 1.5kw.
> > The next line says output 3ph, 220 volt,10 amps, 0-400 Hz
> >
> > But the booklet in the box claims its an:
> >
> > ASKPOWER A131, and the pix looks almost but not exactly the same, as
> > the pix has a pot to the right of the stop/reset button that this
> > unit does not have.
> >
> > Now, here's something interesting, I ebay searched for that model
> > number, and came up with the exact same HY etc number.  But its
> > rated at 2Kw, and _does_ have the resistor callouts on the customer
> > interface according to the ebay pix! $129 + ship, about $30.
> > Essentially the same as I paid for this one.
> >
> > Ok, so now I know they are available.  And I'm a bit smarter about
> > what I buy next time.  So, this one, which seems to work and would
> > be right at home on a gantry router, is officially for sale, first
> > picture of Ben (on a $100 dollar bill + ship in my hand owns it.  I
> > paid about $160 for this one.
> >
> > Thanks everybody.
> >
> > > On 3/13/2016 8:52 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 13 March 2016 13:39:10 Jon Elson wrote:
> > > >> On 03/13/2016 08:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > >>> On Sunday 13 March 2016 09:30:30 John Thornton wrote:
> > > >>>> I just used the the one for by the drive. I "think" not all
> > > >>>> drives would use the same resistor. Just looking at the GS2
> > > >>>> and there are 12 different braking resistors.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> All of which are $435 a copy & still need some sort of an
> > > >>> extra, external controller. AD thinks we are growing our own
> > > >>> money on a tree in the back yard?
> > > >>
> > > >> MOST VFDs have the switch transistor built into the power
> > > >> block.  (6 rectifiers and 7 IGBTs).
> > > >> So, those only need the resistor added.  The purpose-built
> > > >> braking resistors usually have a thermal overload sensor so
> > > >> the drive shuts down if the resistor overheats.
> > > >>
> > > >> Jon
> > > >
> > > > Well, I just took this one down as far as I could get it by
> > > > taking out screws abd unsnapping bits & peices w/o demolishing
> > > > something, and there aren't any terminals called P or B,
> > > > anyplace.  The only thing missing seems to be a short, fat
> > > > electrolytic labeled C4 in the art work.  Every other hole in
> > > > the boards has something in it. So I guess I tie the motor down
> > > > with some clamps, and see how fast I can make it reverse from
> > > > its own panel.
> > > >
> > > > I note that the interface terminl board has separate fwd and
> > > > reverse outputs tallies.  But in the instructions, about how to
> > > > configure it, both accel and decel times can be set as low as
> > > > .01 seconds.
> > > >
> > > > Panel 15 while configuring it says its the startup braking
> > > > voltage, can be set from 1 to 100 volts.
> > > >
> > > > Panel 16 is startup braking time, ensuring that it starts from
> > > > dead.
> > > >
> > > > Panel 17 is stop braking voltage, set 1 to 100 volts.
> > > >
> > > > Panel 18 is stop DC braking time, 0.00 to 650.00 seconds.
> > > >
> > > > Panel 19 selects the speed control input, choice of 5 different
> > > > methods, I'd use 3 for External 0-5 volt and feed it the PWM
> > > > from the 5i25, which I have been a ssured will work just fine.
> > > >
> > > > Skipping a bunch of stuff that it looks as if it might be used
> > > > to counteract any non-linearities in the speed obtain vs
> > > > commanded, 7 settings available there.
> > > >
> > > > Skipping ahead to Panel 29,30,31 which are labeled
> > > > 2nd accel time, 0.01 to 650 seconds
> > > > 2nd decel time, same range
> > > > 2nd decel stop frequency, .01 to 400 Hz, defining the output
> > > > frequency where it switches, Panel 8 & 9 settings are used above
> > > > this frequency, panel 29-30 used if below that frequency.
> > > >
> > > > On page 25 is a table of braking resistors, and that tables
> > > > heading says:
> > > >
> > > > There are internal regenerat brake resistance in this series
> > > > inverter from .75kw to 30 kw.  If extra brake torque is needed,
> > > > please wire proper brake resistance, which in the table for this
> > > > size inverter, 1.5kw, is a 100 ohm 250 watter.
> > > >
> > > > And thats all it has to say about braking resistors, but the
> > > > device hasn't any terminals labeled P or B to which it shows the
> > > > optional braking resistor is wired to. Seems I ought to feed it
> > > > from the 5i25 just for S & G ...  But I have some more work to
> > > > do on the mill before I tear that circuitry out & reroute to
> > > > this thing so I can play.
> > > >
> > > > Damn I hate it when the hardware and the docs aren't even in the
> > > > same country.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Jon, John & Danny, & anybony else that chimed in while I
> > > > was wrecking some mahogany by miss-reading the tape measure.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > >
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> Cheers, Gene Heskett


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