You can not include the termination or pull up/down resistors on a
RS422/485 network in the drivers (unless they can by disabled.)  You don't
know where (or how many) are located on the bus.  They are multi-drop
networks after all.  Only terminate the two far ends.


On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Nicklas Karlsson <
[email protected]> wrote:

> > > > Twisted pair is a transmission line and subject to all the vagaries
> > > > of load matching and such.
> > > >
> > > > That cables impedance is not listed there,
> > >
> > > Yes it is. 120 Ohms.
> >
> > Resistance is NOT impedance, Andy.  And I first read that as 1200 because
> > my screen is high res and the ohm sign looks like another 0 at first
> > glance, I mentaly threw that whole line out as being technically
> > impractical, written by someone who obviously did not understand
> > anything about transmission line theory.  My bad for the miss read of
> > 120 ohms as 1200 ohms, but still the use of the word resistance renders
> > it null and void in my technical mind.  If they meant impedance, they
> > should have written impedance. If the loads J dactor is 0, then they
> > would directly correspond, but that J=0 generally would be quite rare in
> > the real world.
> >
> > However, my comments about the load termination, in this case with a 120
> > ohm resistor from wire to wire at the load end are still valid.
>
> https://www.expertdaq.com/static/img/info/RS485-termination-120-ohm.gif
>
> I think the extra bias network to power rails is necessary to get correct
> level in between data is sent.
>
> > Properly done, thats taken care of in the rs485 interface in the device,
> > but you never know when some bean counter between the engineer and the
> > production line will delete that seemingly useless part as a cost saver.
>
> They save beans in the short but have to spend more of them later. By
> investing the beans in rather good fast growing soil they figured out they
> could return more of them later but still have some left for them self.
>
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