As far as I can tell PathPilot is basically Linuxcnc 2.6 with some minor tweaks and a fancy (and SLOW to load) GUI.
I set up PathPilot on my mill the the other day so see how difficult it actually was, and for S&G I even hooked up the onscreen override sliders so they would update appropriately when I changes the position of my hardware pot overrides. All surprisingly straight forward actually, and very few surprises. Pic here: https://i.imgur.com/Sy80xH8.jpg PP runs on Ubuntu 10.06, so I was able to simply transfer my custom HAL comps from my old Ubuntu 10.06 LCNC install and have them work transparently with PathPilot. I used a MESA 5i25, but I don't see any reason why you could not use any other card, or even the Parport if you wanted. So there is nothing in PathPilot that makes it so it can not be used on other machines. BUT, the PathPilot GUI is designed specifically for use with certain machines, and everything is hard coded, and the code it a mess and hard to follow ( though not as bad as Axis :) ) In short, it is a very restrictive interface on top of something that is very configurable, which IMHO kinda defeats the purpose of using LinuxCNC in the first place. Cheers, kurt On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Martin Dobbins <tu...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Some folks just want to buy a cake NOW. <grin> Microsoft has educated the > world that way. > > > Apple doesn't support its OS on non- Apple hardware either, but people > still do it. > > > Path Pilot is not an operating system it is a front end user interface, > and I believe (as Andy says) that if someone sets themselves up with a > generic PC , a Mesa 5i25 , and a copy of Path Pilot from Tormach they would > be able to run it. I'll bet that if this setup is being used on anything > other than a Tormach mill or lathe, it will need some additional tweaking > for different machine parameters too. > > > Martin > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Chris Albertson > > Tormach says they don't support path pilot on 3rd party equipment. It > likely > depends on specialized hardware so it would not run without modification > and I don't think they have source code available. > > But what they did should serve as an example of what an open source > controller > could look like. Mach 4 could serve as a second example. > > I think it is clear that end users should never have to edit a text file. > Doing that > makes you a developer. I think this provides us with a way to think about > the current > state of LinuxCNC and Machinekit. They are systems that requires further > development by the user to install. Or they are not-quite complete > systems, > maybe like a cake mix, the user still has to add water stir and bake. > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:49 AM, John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com> > wrote: > > > MACH3 apparently won't run on 64bit machines without a parallel port. > > MACH4 > > was supposed to be the successor and support more of the 64bit machines > and > > external stepper engines. Not only that they have a licensing method > that > > is tied to the hardware and more expensive for commercial systems. > > In the Tormach case the LinuxCNC variant is probably tied to the motor > > hardware so replacing the PC and installing Path Pilot can be done > without > > a > > "Call Home" sequence. > > > > AS always. Follow the money. > > > > John > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Martin Dobbins [mailto:tu...@hotmail.com] > > > Sent: October-12-17 9:03 AM > > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black > > > > > > It was in response to comparisons being made to commercial software > such > > as > > > Apple, Microsoft, Google and Tormach. Money is not required to make > > > progress, it sometimes makes it faster, though. > > > > > > > > > The work that is going on right now to make Path Pilot run on any > machine > > that > > > can run Linuxcnc makes me think of those people who make > "hackintoshes". > > > Apple's operating system is priced low compared to Microsoft's (and > > arguably > > > works better), but it is designed to work with Apple's hardware and if > > someone > > > wants to put it on a system that isn't Apple they have to think of work > > arounds > > > to persuade the software that it is running on Apple hardware. > > > > > > > > > My guess is that Path pilot is probably easier to use than Mach 3 or > Mach > > 4 and > > > easier for Tormach to support which is why they made the decision to > > move > > > away from their previous software offerings. I don't know the facts, > but > > I > > > would bet that money made Path Pilot happen (relatively quickly) for > > Tormach. > > > > > > > > > Rather than run up against possible licensing issues, it would be nice > to > > see a > > > reverse engineer of Path Pilot possibly with changes to make it even > > better, that > > > comes as another choice of user interfaces to add to those already > > available. > > > > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > On 11 October 2017 at 22:30, Martin Dobbins <tu...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > What it needs is money, unfortunately. > > > > > > Why do you say that? 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