I would much prefer to edit a well thought out and documented config file than use pretty much any Grunt n' Click interface. People who come from Win and OSX are not used to that, so it seems crude to them at first, but they soon learn to wield the powerful text editor with the best of them. At least in my somewhat limited experience with several Mach3 to LCNC converts.
Cheers, Kurt On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think it is clear that end users should never have to edit a text file.<< >>> >> > What! Why ?? > > So we get rid of Gcode entirely since they are text files?? > > When my Mom sends me an email she creates and edits a text file. She's 87. > > Why would we want to restrict users to "point and click"? > > Dave > > > > On 10/12/2017 1:01 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > >> Tormach says they don't support path pilot on 3rd party equipment. It >> likely >> depends on specialized hardware so it would not run without modification >> and I don't think they have source code available. >> >> But what they did should serve as an example of what an open source >> controller >> could look like. Mach 4 could serve as a second example. >> >> I think it is clear that end users should never have to edit a text file. >> Doing that >> makes you a developer. I think this provides us with a way to think about >> the current >> state of LinuxCNC and Machinekit. They are systems that requires further >> development by the user to install. Or they are not-quite complete >> systems, >> maybe like a cake mix, the user still has to add water stir and bake. >> >> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:49 AM, John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com> >> wrote: >> >> MACH3 apparently won't run on 64bit machines without a parallel port. >>> MACH4 >>> was supposed to be the successor and support more of the 64bit machines >>> and >>> external stepper engines. Not only that they have a licensing method >>> that >>> is tied to the hardware and more expensive for commercial systems. >>> In the Tormach case the LinuxCNC variant is probably tied to the motor >>> hardware so replacing the PC and installing Path Pilot can be done >>> without >>> a >>> "Call Home" sequence. >>> >>> AS always. Follow the money. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Martin Dobbins [mailto:tu...@hotmail.com] >>>> Sent: October-12-17 9:03 AM >>>> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black >>>> >>>> It was in response to comparisons being made to commercial software such >>>> >>> as >>> >>>> Apple, Microsoft, Google and Tormach. Money is not required to make >>>> progress, it sometimes makes it faster, though. >>>> >>>> >>>> The work that is going on right now to make Path Pilot run on any >>>> machine >>>> >>> that >>> >>>> can run Linuxcnc makes me think of those people who make "hackintoshes". >>>> Apple's operating system is priced low compared to Microsoft's (and >>>> >>> arguably >>> >>>> works better), but it is designed to work with Apple's hardware and if >>>> >>> someone >>> >>>> wants to put it on a system that isn't Apple they have to think of work >>>> >>> arounds >>> >>>> to persuade the software that it is running on Apple hardware. >>>> >>>> >>>> My guess is that Path pilot is probably easier to use than Mach 3 or >>>> Mach >>>> >>> 4 and >>> >>>> easier for Tormach to support which is why they made the decision to >>>> >>> move >>> >>>> away from their previous software offerings. I don't know the facts, >>>> but >>>> >>> I >>> >>>> would bet that money made Path Pilot happen (relatively quickly) for >>>> >>> Tormach. >>> >>>> >>>> Rather than run up against possible licensing issues, it would be nice >>>> to >>>> >>> see a >>> >>>> reverse engineer of Path Pilot possibly with changes to make it even >>>> >>> better, that >>> >>>> comes as another choice of user interfaces to add to those already >>>> >>> available. >>> >>>> >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11 October 2017 at 22:30, Martin Dobbins <tu...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What it needs is money, unfortunately. >>>>> >>>> Why do you say that? We have got this far without any money. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> atp >>>> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is >>>> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and >>>> lunatics." >>>> - George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1916 >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ---------------- >>> -- >>> >>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ---------------- >>> -- >>> >>>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Emc-users mailing list >>>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ------------------ >>> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >>> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >>> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
