I think it is clear that end users should never have to edit a text file.<<

What!  Why ??

So we get rid of Gcode entirely since they are text files??

When my Mom sends me an email she creates and edits a text file.  She's 87.

Why would we want to restrict users to "point and click"?

Dave


On 10/12/2017 1:01 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
Tormach says they don't support path pilot on 3rd party equipment.   It
likely
depends on specialized hardware so it would not run without modification
and I don't think they have source code available.

But what they did should serve as an example of what an open source
controller
could look like.    Mach 4 could serve as a second example.

I think it is clear that end users should never have to edit a text file.
Doing that
makes you a developer.  I think this provides us with a way to think about
the current
state of LinuxCNC and Machinekit.  They are systems that requires further
development by the user to install.   Or they are not-quite complete
systems,
maybe like a cake mix, the user still has to add water stir and bake.

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 9:49 AM, John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com>
wrote:

MACH3 apparently won't run on 64bit machines without a parallel port.
MACH4
was supposed to be the successor and support more of the 64bit machines and
external stepper engines.  Not only that they have a licensing method that
is tied to the hardware and more expensive for commercial systems.
In the Tormach case the LinuxCNC variant is probably tied to the motor
hardware so replacing the PC and installing Path Pilot can be done without
a
"Call Home" sequence.

AS always. Follow the money.

John


-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Dobbins [mailto:tu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: October-12-17 9:03 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] MachineKit on the BeagleBone Black

It was in response to comparisons being made to commercial software such
as
Apple, Microsoft, Google and Tormach.   Money is not required to make
progress, it sometimes makes it faster, though.


The work that is going on right now to make Path Pilot run on any machine
that
can run Linuxcnc makes me think of those people who make "hackintoshes".
Apple's operating system is priced low compared to Microsoft's (and
arguably
works better), but it is designed to work with Apple's hardware and if
someone
wants to put it on a system that isn't Apple they have to think of work
arounds
to persuade the software that it is running on Apple hardware.


My guess is that Path pilot is probably easier to use than Mach 3 or Mach
4 and
easier for Tormach to support which is why they made the decision  to
move
away from their previous software offerings.  I don't know the facts, but
I
would bet that money made Path Pilot happen (relatively quickly) for
Tormach.

Rather than run up against possible licensing issues, it would be nice to
see a
reverse engineer of Path Pilot possibly with changes to make it even
better, that
comes as another choice of  user interfaces to add to those already
available.

Martin








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On 11 October 2017 at 22:30, Martin Dobbins <tu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What it needs is money, unfortunately.
Why do you say that? We have got this far without any money.

--
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
lunatics."
- George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1916


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