re
"The programming software has a mode where yu can call up a library
of old 74LSxxx parts and drop them on a canvas and draw lies between pins
"
You talkin bout Cypress's PSoC Creator, Willis?
;-)
It doesnt sound like Xilinx or Altera's tools.
tomp


On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Maybe we've gone full circle.  I just bought an $11 part on eBay.  I it is
> a CPLD.  Like an FPGA but smaller and much less expensive and easier to
> use.   The programming software has a mode where yu can call up a library
> of old 74LSxxx parts and drop them on a canvas and draw lies between pins.
> They have other functional blocks too, just see of them have the old 7400
> numbers.    I did something silly wired a bunch some LEDs to a 4-bit
> counters and watch in count in binary.   The 7400 series versions "Hello
> World" but now I can do that with just one chip.    The little CLPD can
> simulate maybe 100 7400 type chips and they can be clocked at 50MHz
>
> SO it is the one chip solution that you wanted but the old SSI based
> solution that engineer wanted t build.
>
> My use for it was counting encoder pluses up to about 1MHz. but I found I
> could do that with a microcontroler for 1/3rd the cost and size.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 4:05 PM John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > > What we have is the result of historic accident.   EMC and machine
> > control
> > > in general got its start when computers where EXPENSIVE.  You design
> > > differently when you parts for five digit price tags than when you
> parts
> > > are nearly free.  If computers cost $2 and two of them could fit on
> your
> > > thumbnail then you might just be inclined to use more of them.
> >
> > I remember having arguments with an engineer about using micro-processors
> > (with EPROM) to do simple logic.  He was adamant that TTL was a better
> > solution because the processor was too expensive.  My point was that
> > processors were coming down in price and there were now single chip ones
> > with EEPROM windows (before onboard flash) and that one chip would do the
> > job of a large number of discrete devices.
> >
> > At the same time I was wire-wrapping up an S-100 board with an NED u7220
> (I
> > think that was the number) video controller and the rest of the logic was
> > all 74S series.  He was wrong of course.  Many projects don't need 20 TTL
> > or
> > CMOS chips and an Arduino is an ideal replacement.  But only to a limit.
> >
> > > Combine the high-reduction cycloidic drive with a small low cost BLDC
> > > motor
> > > and you have a point for a robot arm (or leg) or a machine tool axis.
> > > Here is a model of one of these motor and all -- please try the
> "explode"
> > > button to see the insides of the drive.  (The button turns the drawing
> > into
> > > a parts diagram) https://a360.co/2KhamaI
> > >
> > Very cool!
> >
> >
> > > OK back to real-time...
> >
> >
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