Jon,

I guess you just have to 'love' standards huh?  heh.  Not to give away my age, 
but the last 'standard' I tried to decipher was NAPLPS.

Now, overlook my ignorance here, please.  What boards do you make?  Mesa boards?

Joe


----- On Apr 23, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:

> On 04/23/2019 11:21 AM, Joe Hildreth wrote:
>> Jon,
>>
>>> I make boards that use the parallel port as a communications
>>> channel for motion control.
>>> These use the IEEE-1284 (EPP) mode for faster communication.
>> How do you test if a card works properly in EPP mode?  This would be good
>> information to add to the list for those using your hardware.
>>
>>
> All I am concerned with is if it works with my boards.  But,
> in the process, I learned more than I ever WANTED to know
> about EPP.  EPP is a horrible "standard", because it really
> doesn't seem to be a standard.  There is the IEEE-1284
> designation, but I've never seen the standards document,
> probably because I can't afford it.  The best thing I ever
> found was the datasheet from an old ISA-bus multi-IO chip.
> Also, there is a Microsoft document that generally lays out
> how it is supposed to work.  But, chip makers don't follow
> any of that.  The Microsoft doc shows timing diagrams with
> no numbered specs on timing.  But, at least, the data bus is
> shown as stable before the strobes are asserted.  Well, some
> chips assert the strobes FIRST, then the data FOLLOWS.  Not
> even at the same time, but the strobes come 50 ns FIRST!  Crazy!
> 
> There was a very old PCI board that failed to hold the CPU
> in a wait state, so the strobe would come on and then a
> bunch of bytes would be sent rapidly on the data bus.  No
> WAY to fix that one in software.
> 
> Anyway, one of the areas of confusion is how the data bus
> direction is handled.  One way is the driver program
> commands all direction changes by setting/clearing a bit in
> the control register.  Another way is the use of INB and
> OUTB CPU instructions allows the board to turn the bus
> around as needed, automatically.  Some boards require the
> first way, some require the second, and some will handle
> either.  So, I had to put in a command line switch on the
> hal_ppmc driver to allow the user to select which mode the
> driver used.  This allowed just about any EPP board to work.
> 
> As for testing, I have a set of public diagnostic programs
> on my web site for my boards, and they do communications
> reliability testing by sending random data to the board and
> then reading it back.
> 
> If I had ONLY KNOWN how big a muddle the EPP was, I likely
> would have done something different.
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
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